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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2009, 06:03:37 PM »

SM-style handling superiority.
Huh?? What is SM-style handling superiority?
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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2009, 08:01:01 PM »

Huh?? What is SM-style handling superiority?

You gotta ride an SM to figure that out.  Wink
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2009, 08:27:18 PM »

I recently had my own "come to Jesus" talk with myself over the two bikes and eliminated the HM796 even though it has the better engine and SM-style handling superiority.  Why?  First, I have an SM now and can't tolerate riding more than 20-30 minutes at a time due to the strain the riding position puts on my upper back; when I get into the twisties, it's second to none in terms of riding fun, but they're over an hour of highway droning away from my house.  Second, this will be my first Ducati, so I'm going to start with one that has broad appeal so I can sell it in 2yrs or so when I grow tired of it as is my pattern of motorcycle ownership for the last decade or give it to my wife (she rides occasionally).  The things I can't settle on are color (black vs. white) and exhaust (Arrow vs. Termignoni); the black is very understated and devoid of pretension, but the white is more visible which is a concern when commuting to my office at 6am; I've had Arrow and Akrapovic pipes on my Triumphs and other bikes and loved the sound and build quality, but Termi seems to be standard for Ducs.  As an aside, I plan to get the DP ECU even though it's 4x more expensive than a PowerCommander due mostly to the raised rev limiter and "designed for" aspect of the DP ECU.  

My dealer is closed until next Tuesday, though, so I can't pull the trigger on the bike.  Does anyone know what, if any, the next round of Ducati incentives will entail?

-Hyper is a better commuter
-Hyper position puts less strain on the back then a Monster
-A 696 is not the definition of "broad appeal", be prepared for it to be worth half of what you pay after a year
-A Termi kit usually comes with an ECU
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« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2009, 11:24:37 PM »

Huh?? What is SM-style handling superiority?
SM = supermoto
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« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2009, 11:27:48 PM »

-Hyper is a better commuter
-Hyper position puts less strain on the back then a Monster
-A 696 is not the definition of "broad appeal", be prepared for it to be worth half of what you pay after a year
-A Termi kit usually comes with an ECU
- depends on your commute... i have 28 out of 30 miles on the autobahn
- agree, but the seat is also less comfortable (on of the reasons why i picked the 696 over the HM)
- the 696 seems to be holding its value but i think more because it's a ducati
- termis always come with ECU. Airfilter and slipons or full system
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« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2010, 02:43:59 PM »

It was a real easy choice for me.  I'm short and could barely touch the ground on the Hypermotard.
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« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2010, 03:19:02 PM »

the 796 has a lower seat height than the 1100
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« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2010, 05:27:11 PM »

I never knew that three question marks equals a  Huh? 

I'm just questioning the handling superiority of a HM 796 over a M696.  Isn't part of the great handling of SM bikes due to the light weight?  Just because the Hypermotard's have SM styling doesn't mean they have the same light weight.  The M696 & HM796 probably weigh the same thing.  What gives the HM796 superiority over a M696?  Maybe more leverage with wider handlebars? 
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« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2010, 07:13:50 PM »

I never knew that three question marks equals a  Huh? 

I'm just questioning the handling superiority of a HM 796 over a M696.  Isn't part of the great handling of SM bikes due to the light weight?  Just because the Hypermotard's have SM styling doesn't mean they have the same light weight.  The M696 & HM796 probably weigh the same thing.  What gives the HM796 superiority over a M696?  Maybe more leverage with wider handlebars? 

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« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2010, 07:22:34 PM »

- depends on your commute... i have 28 out of 30 miles on the autobahn
- agree, but the seat is also less comfortable (on of the reasons why i picked the 696 over the HM)
- the 696 seems to be holding its value but i think more because it's a ducati
- termis always come with ECU. Airfilter and slipons or full system

-of course your commute may vary. I was talking more of a commute with traffic. Hyper hands down.
-The seat is less comfortable on 100 mile plus days. No issue on short hops. 3-4 after market seats available now anyway
-selling for $7K, not bad and not half but 65% of most new purchases / same for for the Hyper BTW.
-new sets do. i put the "usually" in in case of a used set being purchased.
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