Rizoma Indicator 'Black Box'

[ollie]

Just got a pair of Rizoma Avio 21 Indicators, I bought them online from ReverCorsa.

The indicators are packaged individually and externally the packets were the same, but when I opened them up and went to install them the wiring setup was different on each one .
- Package One contained - 1 Indicator , 1 Resistor and 1 Black Box
- Package Two conatined - 1 Indicator, 2 Resistors and something which looks like another resistor which is wired in inline, but no Black Box

Is package two a newer version where the black box has been shrunk and already wired in?
Any other thoughts on what is going on?

[hunduc]

I'm not sure this will be a big help, but I bought my track-77's from PJs, and at that time (before buying) I asked them about the black boxes (because in the latest Rizoma catalog there is a picture of a new black box (or resistor?) which I haven't seen before) and they said that the packages vary now (old style and new style). My signals all looked the same, though: I had the lights, the black box (which was just a very flat 1 1/2 inch thing) and two resistors (same length as the black box, but rectangular cross-section). And yes, the load box was wired inline.

I would be very surprised if the black box was inside the light (or you did not mean that?).       

[corey]

The Rizoma signals should come with:
• 1 Indicator Light
• 1 Black Loadbox, approx. 1-1/2 x 1-1/14 inch, about a half inch or 3/8 deep.
• 2 Resistors. Why? I don't know, they like giving extra ones away i guess.

The loadbox will have a "do not remove" sticker on it, or something to that effect. It will be wired in-line, but has a plug so you can disconnect it for installing.

It sounds like you have 3 Resistors, and 2 black boxes, which should work just fine. Just put one Load Box, and one resistor on each side. That should do ya just fine. Not sure why you are missing a resistor, maybe someone snuck one out while at the warehouse :/

[angler]

They give you extra resistors because if you look at them wrong the wires break at the solder.  I found that out lowering my clocks.

[corey]

wow, that sucks man.
i had zero problems with mine, and was very rough with them when installing.
i also found out that you only need one resistor per side, even if you're installing 4 LED signals. so i'll be going back in to take a couple out. which means i have like  6 resistors left over. I used two on my lady's gixxer. They are nicer than some of those cheapo resistors out there.

[angler]

Perhaps I was too rough with them.  Good thing there were extras.

[junior varsity]

As Corey said, one resister per side, not one resister per blinker. If you put the resistors on the rear blinkers, you'll not need to find room at the front for them.

Unfortunately, there's no way around those big ass black load boxes. One per signal on the new signals. (The old signals used to not require them).

I'm holding off on replacing some old, cracked rizomas that didn't use a load box until Rizoma figures out how to get around the load box all together, I don't like trying to find a place to hide that. (Kind of makes me want to switch to Kellermans)

[angler]

Or put them all underneath the seat.  Once I got to pods and start yanking out all the underseat plastic, I plan to move a lot of that behind the headlight garbage under the seat.

[junior varsity]

the rizoma information states that the load boxes have to be so many inches (or less) from the signals.

[angler]

well there goes that idea.....

[junior varsity]

I sit mine on the corners of the air filter (open air box). Again, why I am thinking of going to kellermans, or something else that merely needs a resistor. I wish they still produced the old rizomas that didn't need the load box.

[corey]

i managed to bundle mine up front no problem... with two extra unnecessary resistors and everything.. ah the glory of zip ties.

[geoffduc]

I replaced the rear indicators on a friends streetfighter with rizoma avio 21 and they came with 1 black box and 2 resistors in the first pack and 1 black box and 1 resistor in the second pack. I contacted the suppier and he confirmed that you use 1 black box and 1 resistor per side and from what I understand you will not need to fit another set of black boxs and resistors if you also replace the front indicators.

 

[junior varsity]

Hmm. I think its that you won't need the resistors. You'd still need the load boxes I believe.

[angler]

i managed to bundle mine up front no problem... with two extra unnecessary resistors and everything.. ah the glory of zip ties.

It wasn't a problem to find space for their mile of wire, but it looks cluttered to me.  I would love to see daylight through that space.....