2009 M696 Parts

[junior varsity]

The steering damper smooths out steering and makes the bike feel more solid. The bike does not feel as loose or wobbly on the freeway or in the twisties.

Hmmm. This sounds like the damper is doing a bit more work than it should. The damper should be towards the lighter side of things, adjustment wise, and other problems may be stemming from other suspension issues, like over or under sprung rear shock, and forks.

[Miami]

is there any advantage to the dry clutch vs. the wet?

[Raux]

woah that's a whole other thread.

[Miami]

hey i do what i can. 


do you think if i have the option of adding the price of pipes onto my financed total i should? The dealership i'm buying from carries both Quat-D and Two Brothers.

[Raux]

sometimes shops will do that if they have those parts in stock.
quat-d, juice box and k&n filter should be what you need for that setup.

[ungeheuer]

....I suspect most vented clutch covers are there to "vent" the Ducati trademark rattle clutch and it's cool looks. I have decided not to want it...

I love your thought process there .  If I may borrow your wisdom for a moment - and hijack the thread for a second - then... I have decided not to want a black frame.  I have also decided not to want a Moto Guzzi Griso (as well as, not instead of..)... I have further decided not to want ABS.  I have decided not to want a Zard full-system *caveat: until such time as somebody makes a something to replace the DP ECU, then I reserve the right to re-want the Zard setup  .  In the mean time I'm trying to decide to not want the DP full system but I fear that I'm beginning to actually like (I know... its an illness) how that thing looks.  There I said it. 

Sorry Miami, here's your thread back....

[Raux]

I love your thought process there .  If I may borrow your wisdom for a moment - and hijack the thread for a second - then... I have decided not to want a black frame.  I have also decided not to want a Moto Guzzi Griso (as well as, not instead of..)... I have further decided not to want ABS.  I have decided not to want a Zard full-system *caveat: until such time as somebody makes a something to replace the DP ECU, then I reserve the right to re-want the Zard setup  .  In the mean time I'm trying to decide to not want the DP full system but I fear that I'm beginning to actually like (I know... its an illness) how that thing looks.  There I said it.  

Sorry Miami, here's your thread back....

just pick up a DP ecu like i did and get it over with. 10.5k rpm limit and no fueling issues. now just got to put the bike back together.

[ungeheuer]

just pick up a DP ecu like i did and get it over with. 10.5k rpm limit and no fueling issues. now just got to put the bike back together.

Raux... I already have a DP ECU... it came with my Termi slip-ons.... but as it still expects to hear inputs from the lambda sensors.. and still tweats the dumb-arse flapper valve servo its no use with any other full system which dispenses with both of the aforementioned.  I'd need the other DP ECU as supplied with the DP full system...and I cant see anybody having a spare one of those...

[DoWorkSon]

Hmmm. This sounds like the damper is doing a bit more work than it should. The damper should be towards the lighter side of things, adjustment wise, and other problems may be stemming from other suspension issues, like over or under sprung rear shock, and forks.

Sorry, maybe I was a little dramatic in how i described what the steering damper did.

just pick up a DP ecu like i did and get it over with. 10.5k rpm limit and no fueling issues. now just got to put the bike back together.

Where did you get the DP ECU by itself?

[Raux]

Raux... I already have a DP ECU... it came with my Termi slip-ons.... but as it still expects to hear inputs from the lambda sensors.. and still tweats the dumb-arse flapper valve servo its no use with any other full system which dispenses with both of the aforementioned.  I'd need the other DP ECU as supplied with the DP full system...and I cant see anybody having a spare one of those...

you could go with the Duc.EE from Motocreations to get rid of the flapper valve and still just use the lambda with the DP ECU you have now. I'm working on a system for the 696/1100 with a local shop. 2 into 2 (with or without a crossover is unknown at this time-dyno testing will determine if a true 2 into 2) keeping the header pipes and lambda sensors, but getting rid of the flapper valve. Should come with a unique tail chop as well.

[junior varsity]

you'll get the most power out of a system with a cross-over.

[Raux]

Sorry, maybe I was a little dramatic in how i described what the steering damper did.

Where did you get the DP ECU by itself?

Ebay is your friend. a shop was going out of business. not sure how they had it on the shelf alone or if they had broke up the set to make more.. paid half the cost of the SS full system.

[Raux]

you'll get the most power out of a system with a cross-over.

i have a couple of 696 systems and an 1100 system for testing and development so I'll try several configurations. Not going to try and reinvent the wheel though. Motocreations has the Duc.EE so i'll recommend that to go with the system when they go for sale.

It's interesting that I just read today and now was confirmed from Unge that the new DP ECU keeps the lambda inputs. for race only systems, i'm surprised.

[junior varsity]

iirc, lambda is for emissions regulations, correct?

if so, silly to keep it for race ecus. then again, lots of race bikes still run carburettors because of the relative lack of gadgets needed.

[Raux]

yeah kinda wierd.
the new Siemens comes in three version then?
Stock (696/1100)
DP slipon (keeping lambda) (696/1100)
DP full (no lambda) (1100)