Looking to buy 900 Monster

[Spider]

Good info Brad! I did not know there was different gearing ratios used..

I have a 03 M800S and it's forks are the non adjustable Marzocchi type, has goldline capliers and the coffin masters. I'm pretty sure the only upgrade to the S was the Al swingarm (abd maybe some carbon side panels)

m1000 to 1000s had 4 changes

carbon sidepanels
showa adjustable forks
aluminium swingarm
fairings

wonder if the 800 was the same?

[Betty]

wonder if the 800 was the same?

Until Ducati recently make the beast with two backsed up their website you probably could have got a pretty good answer from the 'archived bikes' section.

But from memory on the 'girls' bikes the 'S' models was about aesthetics ... on a Monster, ha ... who'da thunk it!

I think (again from my poor memory and with no particular interest in such things at the time) when Jukie got her 620 (2002), the 620S came with (extra over the base model):
. the bikini fairing (both inluded the seat cowl)
. a higher seat (in other words it had all the padding of the bigger bikes)
. some carbon fibre bits

Although I think the price difference was about $1000 so I certainly wouldn't rule out some other difference (swingarm or rear suspension) but I doubt it would extend to adjustable forks.

[Betty]

 

Of course the website lists both the 620 and 620S for 2002 (had not been my experience for searches of other models/years).

Website confirms aluminium swinger on the 'S' model but suspension seems the same.

[loony888]

the first ST series based frame was the 2001 S4, which had an alloy swingarm, 5.9m ecu and immobilisor.  all other 2001 monsters (600, 750, 900ie) were the old frame.

2002 all monsters had the ST based frame with either the ST2/ST4 steel swingarm or the S4 alloy swingarm (which also was fitted to the ST4S) and the 5.9m ecu - 620ie, 750ie, 900ie.  none of the late alloy swingarms have stand bobbins.  first 800 was 2003, spec ranged from basic dark to s - not sure how flash the suspension offered was on the s model.

M900ie (ZDM904A2Kxxxxxx engine number) have the close ratio gearbox that i find annoying when it comes to the city versus highway gearing compromise, and even tho the 800 has a 6 speed it's ratio spread is closer to the close ratio 6 speed than the wide ratio 6 speed with a big gap from 1st to 2nd.  apart from that i quite like them.

thanks brad, my S4 was an '01 so that's where i got the idea they were all the ST frame.


paul

[Spider]

ha! this is turning into the old 'model comparison' thread on TOB....really good fun to pull out the old catalogs and log the data:

                          2004     2005     2006     2007     2008     2009     2010


m620 dark          X          X
m620                 X          X           X
695                                                          X           X
696                                                                       X           X         X

m800                 X
S2r800 dark                   X           X
S2r800                          X           X           X

m1000s             X          X
S2r1000                                     X            X            X           
1100                                                                                  X           X
1100s                                                                                 X           X

S4r                   X           X           X
S4r t                                                        X            X
S4r s                                          X            X            X

stats:


                                seat height (")   Fuel         Dry Weight (p / kg)    HP      Torque (kgm / nm)
   
600:                         30.3                  4.2 / 16            383 / 174          51       5.1 / 50
620:                         30.3                  3.9 / 15            390 / 177          60       5.4 / 53.3
695:                         30.3                  3.6 / 14            370 / 168          63       6.2
696:                         30.3                  3.8 / 15            355 / 161          80       7


750                           30.3                 3.9 / 15             394 / 179          64      6.3  / 62
m800                        30.3                 3.9 / 15             394 / 179          73       7    / 69
S2r800                      31.5                 3.6 / 14             381 / 173          77       7.4


m900
m900sie                    31.5                 3.9 / 15             416 / 189          78       7.4 / 73


m1000                      31.5                 3.9 / 15             416 / 189           94       9.6 / 84
S2r1000                    31.5                 3.6 / 14             392 / 178           96       9.6 / 84
1100 / s                    31.9                 3.8 / 15             373 / 169           95       10.5


s4                             31.6                 4.4 / 16.5         423 / 193            101      9.3  / 92
s4 Fogarty                 31.6                 4.4 / 16.5         414 / 189            110      ?
s4r                            31.5                 3.9 / 15            425 / 193            113      10.1 / 95.5
s4r t / s                     31.5                 3.6 / 13.5         390 / 177            130      10.6 /

^note: in 2004 Ducati started using different measuring which is why the old sheet and the new don't marry well, dry weight was altered and HP was at the crankcase NOT the back wheel, torque was also altered that year

^note: bought a year 2000 catalog and turns out the 900 was IE that year as well. Would love a 2003 catalog!

[loony888]

bloody hell!

[Spider]

bloody hell!

relax, I had it sitting around....it was something 'we' of the new board wanted to do, take the old model comparison and update it.....I prepared all the data....for statler nut I don't think he ever got the time to program the html side of things.

and then the hard part is putting in the changes from year to year of all the models!!!!

I might add 900ie onto it tomorrow (the 900 series has so many iterations in its 9 year history)

[FIFO]

This looks good

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ducati-S2R-800-Monster_W0QQitemZ220531531030QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycles?hash=item3358b41d16

[DosVerde]

This looks good

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ducati-S2R-800-Monster_W0QQitemZ220531531030QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycles?hash=item3358b41d16

And it would be a fun riding it home 

[NFG]

Nine year history?  Mine's a '93, it's now 2010.  Even if we end last year, that's 16 years of 900cc Monster history.  Unless you're not counting years where there was no 900cc model, but that'd be wrong wouldn't it? 

[Spider]

Nine year history?  Mine's a '93, it's now 2010.  Even if we end last year, that's 16 years of 900cc Monster history.  Unless you're not counting years where there was no 900cc model, but that'd be wrong wouldn't it? 

started 93, finished 02.....that's nine years or ten years inclusive.....they have been manufactured for nine years, not frickin 16....the m1000 has a  3 year history. Feel free to give me the updated info for the 2009 900s!

[NFG]

Oops, sorry.  I didn't realize they weren't being made still.

Newb here going quiet again, in shame.  =)

[heatherp]

That one doesn't sound/look too bad. No I'm not in the market for another. Although it does have a lot less kms than my 05 bike.

Interesting how in the description he's selling in favour of marital harmony  Remember the other bloke who was selling (a sedici I think  ) for the same reason and the general consenus over a multitude of emails on his ebay site was to keep the bike and trade the wife? 

I really don't understand this 'it's me or the bike' deal but then I don't have a wife (or husband) to force me into such crap choices.

[DosVerde]

started 93, finished 02.....that's nine years or ten years inclusive.....they have been manufactured for nine years, not frickin 16....the m1000 has a  3 year history. Feel free to give me the updated info for the 2009 900s!

There, there Spider, sounds like someone's been poking your hole with a stick.

[signora monster]

Interesting how in the description he's selling in favour of marital harmony  Remember the other bloke who was selling (a sedici I think  ) for the same reason and the general consenus over a multitude of emails on his ebay site was to keep the bike and trade the wife? 

I really don't understand this 'it's me or the bike' deal but then I don't have a wife (or husband) to force me into such crap choices.

I don't get this mentality either.
It should be for better, for worse, for long rides apart or together (on separate bikes ).