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Started by Grampa, January 14, 2010, 05:45:15 PM

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LMT

#30
January 21, 2010, 04:54:42 AM Last Edit: January 21, 2010, 04:58:47 AM by Little Monkey Toes
Quote from: D Paoli on January 21, 2010, 04:49:12 AM
Because....

http://www.jw-media.org/hti/20100118.htm

And there are no paid volunteers. And this sort of thing goes on all the time.

The vols are not paid, but the staff that gets them, trains them, places  them, and then retains them are paid.

Your link is broke or makes no sense.  If you have specific data against the ARC or ICRC I would be happy to read it and give you my data.

junior varsity

#31
January 21, 2010, 04:57:58 AM
Tax time is coming -- If you haven't read, donations for Haiti may be claimed as deductions on the 2009 return, so sayeth the news feeds. An incentive to give now and get the reward more immediately (time value of moolah).

MendoDave

#32
January 21, 2010, 05:06:02 AM
Quote from: Little Monkey Toes on January 21, 2010, 04:54:42 AM
The vols are not paid, but the staff that gets them, trains them, places  them, and then retains them are paid.

Your link is broke or makes no sense.  If you have specific data against the ARC or ICRC I would be happy to read it and give you my data.

Link works fine.

junior varsity

#33
January 21, 2010, 05:15:51 AM
Gotta be honest, hard to accept the Jehovah's Witness media data as unbiased in reporting - they have a stake in the outcome of their proposition. They are also sending aid, therefore, competing against those claimed to not be fully giving the aid. It does cost money to provide aid, the Red Cross can't function without some permanent employees.

junior varsity

#34
January 21, 2010, 05:16:47 AM
*Not because they are JW, but because they are a competing cause. that is all, no insult to an individuals religious preferences intended. it could be the baptists, methodists, or snake charmers for all i care.

LMT

#35
January 21, 2010, 05:20:02 AM
Quote from: D Paoli on January 21, 2010, 05:06:02 AM
Link works fine.

I am glad that the Jehovah Witnesses are there, but does it have to do with the American Red Cross or the International Committee of the Red Cross?

You may not like the RC, and that is fine.  If you are going to make statements that may lead others to think we are doing wrong, then back them up with facts.

I am done with this. I have to go to work.  At the Red Cross. Someone is going to learn how to save a life today!

ducpainter

#36
January 21, 2010, 05:27:21 AM
Quote from: D Paoli on January 21, 2010, 05:06:02 AM
Link works fine.
It may work...

but it makes no sense.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


akmnstr

#37
January 21, 2010, 05:49:02 AM
There are lots of ways to give so if you have a problem with the Red Cross find another way.  We gave to Unicef.
"you may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas!!" Davey Crockett & AKmnstr

"An American monkey, after getting drunk on brandy, would never touch it again, and thus is much wiser than most men."
Charles Darwin

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triangleforge

#38
January 21, 2010, 05:53:01 AM
If you want to make sure your contribution does the most good, do your homework first. Here's a great place to start, Charity Navigator's guide to Haitian relief:

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=content.view&cpid=1004

Or Guidestar's:

http://www2.guidestar.org/rxg/give-to-charity/haitian-relief-efforts.aspx

I've looked over both, and have no qualms about supporting the American Red Cross.

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2000 Cagiva Gran Canyon

MendoDave

#40
January 21, 2010, 05:11:28 PM
Quote from: akmnstr on January 21, 2010, 05:49:02 AM
There are lots of ways to give so if you have a problem with the Red Cross find another way.  We gave to Unicef.

A that's what I'm saying. I'm not going to bash the red cross here. Its just divisive. But I have my reasons for not want to to donate that go way back to the 80's. Plus some reasons that can't be talked about on this forum.

Quote from: ato memphis on January 21, 2010, 05:15:51 AM
Gotta be honest, hard to accept the Jehovah's Witness media data as unbiased in reporting - they have a stake in the outcome of their proposition. They are also sending aid, therefore, competing against those claimed to not be fully giving the aid. It does cost money to provide aid, the Red Cross can't function without some permanent employees.

You probably wont find a report on them in the mainstream media. They are really not competing against any other aid programs for recognition either, they just do what they do in this sort of situation often unnoticed by and large.

ducpainter

#41
January 21, 2010, 05:18:55 PM
Quote from: D Paoli on January 21, 2010, 05:11:28 PM
A that's what I'm saying. I'm not going to bash the red cross here. Its just divisive. But I have my reasons for not want to to donate that go way back to the 80's. Plus some reasons that can't be talked about on this forum.

You probably wont find a report on them in the mainstream media. They are really not competing against any other aid programs for recognition either, they just do what they do in this sort of situation often unnoticed by and large.
So enough with the political/religious innuendo already. [roll]

Just give, or not, by the method you choose.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


junior varsity

#42
January 21, 2010, 05:19:28 PM
inYOURendo.

ducpainter

#43
January 21, 2010, 05:21:03 PM
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


junior varsity

#44
January 21, 2010, 05:21:50 PM
joke from Scrubs. A character "The Todd" always makes obscene jokes and at one point, they told him to lay off the innuendo, so he replied "in your endo".
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