The "Sugar" Scam....... Sugar is Sold....... Sad day....

[Big T]

MMMmmmm I posted my S4RT on BikePoint and have had an interesting response.
Link to Sugar on BikePoint

Then got an email from Zach at moo2cum-b@yahoo.com

We swapped a few emails then this:
Just wanted to make sure all bases are covered
I will purchase at the listed price and payment will be sent using PayPal and i will be needing your email with PayPal for payment or you could send me an invoice(ill handle the PayPal surcharge,you just let me know).Make sure you get back to me so that we can arrange for pick up as i will like the item to be picked as i am out of town at the moment..
I await your reply.
Thanks

So I then sent this:
Hi Zach
Hey could you please send me your mobile phone number so I can give you a buzz to discuss the deal / PayPal arrangements.
I will also need your full name and address for the invoice.
Thanks for your business.
Trevor

Then this:
You will be deregistering the car,as i will be using it out of the country and my name is Zach Moore,current phone number +2348064505810,if you dont mind calling international,as i am overseas at the moment
Thanks

I rang the number and "Zach" answered and wants to purchase the bike and send it to Russia. Told him I will only deal with a person in Australia (as if that is going to happen...   ).....

So this is the last I deal with Zach and his mates......    

OOohhh and this from BikePoint:
Scam Alert: Please be aware that there is a phishing scam running currently with some buyers only operating through their Pay Pal account.
If the buyer advises that they do not have internet banking and have a pick up agent then this is not a legitimate enquiry.

[mattyvas]

Mo-Farkers!

Hope you get a real buyer.

[FIFO]

Yeah seen this type of scam talked about on other 4wd forums.
Been going on for ages. allways thieves out there.

Did see a guy had a web page up  a few years back on how to screw these guy back.
good fun if you have the time.



 

[Six95]

Good luck with the sale Trev.
Makes you appreciate the bling effort when it's all spelled out. That's an extensive list.

[Spider]

this came up one another site and EVERY person that had their bike on bikepoint had the scam...usually they are 'aussies' working offshore on fishing vessels and oil rigs and they are definitely paying you what you want....you'll receive funds in your paypal and an agent will pick the bike up!

phuckers. people suck.

[Dannog]

I heard about this happening to a guy on for a bicycle sale (expensive bike) some how they reverse the paypal deal after you've sent the the item or in your case picked it up. Moral of the story don't leave money in paypal account as they cna just reverse the transaction or freeze your account!

[CairnsDuc]

I get about 4 to 5 a day since I listed the Monster asking for my PayPal account, I have now changed the listing to say NO PAYPAL.
Or am I being to cautious and blocking legit buyers by saying no Paypal?
It just scares me how many horror stories you see with people using PayPal, lost money, buyers telling lies, and the only people
who win is the buyer and Paypal.

Also even if you get the money out of the PayPal account, there have been a number of occasions when the Police have turned up on the doorstep
to take the money back as the money is stolen, so bike is gone and money is gone also.
Don't know how true it is, but it sounds realistic.

I wonder how many people have tried to Scam the Scammer, take the money and then give a false address for the pickup or simply
not make the bike available.....Just sayin..

[Dannog]

I think that Paypal works well for ebay. generally small transactions but more importantly you get to see the buyers (or sellers) history. It takes a while to get a reputation and history of good transactions and if there is any issues you simply don't do a deal with them.

I wouldn't have thought Paypal is the way to go when selling your bike. the fees are just too much. I've always used cash and not had a problem. I used a bank cheque to by my last bike from Frasers but i wouldn't accept a bank cheque from an individual I didn't know or trust. Its a bit scary having $20K in your pocket but the alternate of having nothing is more worrying.

[CairnsDuc]

I've had 3 scammers this morning, Will pay more than the listed price, PayPal only, I am overSeas, Pickup agent will collect it....
Usual Bullshit

scratch that, just had number 4!
What I want to know, is how many people fall for this bullshit?

[CairnsDuc]

Hey Big T, that is the Email address (Moo2cum) that just approached me to buy my bike, He must like collecting bikes 

[DosVerde]

Hey Big T, that is the Email address (Moo2cum) that just approached me to buy my bike, He must like collecting bikes 

You have'nt upgraded to a Can-am spyder by any chance CairnsDuc?

[Big T]

Hey Big T, that is the Email address (Moo2cum) that just approached me to buy my bike, He must like collecting bikes 

Hey CairnsDuc just got another "Collector" who wants to use PayPal....

Name:  Kelvin Simpson
Postcode: 3233
Mobile Phone: 0400 300 900
Email: kelly080simp@gmail.com

[FIFO]

I have had nothing but good results when using Paypal. When I'm selling something via ebay, I try to avoid receiving payment vis Paypal as they skim a bit of my sale price for themselves (I know this already and it is as per the agreement).

When I do receive a payment for goods sold, I DO NOT send the package away until I have successfully transfered the funds from my paypal account INTO MY BANK ACCOUNT. Then, and only then, am I 100% satisfied that they payment is finalised.

Ebay and Paypal seem to have now made it virtually impossible to conduct transactions via ebay without using Paypal. This isn't really a problem (in my book), so long as usual due care is taken in completing the transaction.

[heatherp]

So Rob does that mean you would sell your bike to Mr MooScum from Russia? Sounds like he is attempting to collect many Oz Ducati. (oops spelt his name wrong  ) (hmn mooscum - bullshit,  maybe I should stop doing cryptic crosswords  )

I haven't had any problems with Paypal either but I've only bought small items from O/S.  And one not so small item within Oz.  Haven't tried selling anything.

If something sounds too good to be true - it is.

[FIFO]

Not good to hear of  Big t and Cairns duc contact with Paypal, but, with all respect, they can hardly be held accountable for scams done in their name.

I would not  respond to unregistered  paypal users.

Obviously there are those (Mr Mooscum)that will try to scam, & you have correctly assessed this lot at this time, so
well done. Anyone buying a high priced item unseen should be treated with suspicion in my book.