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« on: January 20, 2010, 02:11:05 PM »




http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/2010_eCRP_1_Electric_Superbike
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2010, 02:31:29 PM »

The name says it all:  CRaP
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2010, 02:37:27 PM »

http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/tt-isle-of-man/ke3446.html
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2010, 02:39:22 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2010, 03:07:14 PM »

Looks nice. If it's light and fun to ride, I'd rock it.
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2010, 05:26:41 PM »

They really need to stop with the "zero emissions" B.S. Though I guess it just reafirms the old out of sight out of mind adage.

Call me when they make one that can go 150 miles on a charge and recharge under 10 minutes.
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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2010, 05:54:33 PM »

to hell with that.  he sold out on his real dream bike which I thought was KICK ASS.  Or maybe some company bought it, more likely since he had over 70 patents on the thing.  NEVER will I own something that hisses at me rather than barks.  Not me anyway.
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2010, 07:30:51 PM »

You could always buy a little box that goes "vrooom vroom"  Grin

I personally don't care, as long as the range is over 100 miles, it's lightweight, it can charge (or have a fresh battery put in) in under 5 minutes and it makes some power.

And personally, I like the torque curve on electric motors...

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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2010, 08:32:47 PM »

100 miles is a commuter bike.  I need more than 300 to make it a good day.  hell, we shot people to the moon and have a permanent space station but can't recharge a battery fast enough?  and the making and disposing of batteries is worse for the environment than riding my fossil burning machine.  hydrogen is the future!
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2010, 09:02:27 PM »

Put me down as a fan of hydrogen too.
So clean you can run the exhaust through a mini espresso machine and have a coffee on the road.
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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2010, 11:02:05 PM »

100 miles is a commuter bike.  I need more than 300 to make it a good day.  hell, we shot people to the moon and have a permanent space station but can't recharge a battery fast enough?  and the making and disposing of batteries is worse for the environment than riding my fossil burning machine.  hydrogen is the future!

 laughingdp i think about what you just said and thought about it in real life.

NASA's solution to a battery that doesnt charge fast enough

a) nuclear powercore that constantly generates heat to recharge the battery. Expected life: 85 years
b) Solar Power: unlimited miles, but unusually odd solar panels large enough to generate lift. Expected lift: -300lbs
c) secondary battery to charge the main battery, while the bike runs on the backup battery. total weight :200 extra lbs.

pick and choose your battles. You dont want a bike that can potentially make you sterile do you? Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2010, 07:09:41 AM »

to hell with that.  he sold out on his real dream bike which I thought was KICK ASS.  Or maybe some company bought it, more likely since he had over 70 patents on the thing.  NEVER will I own something that hisses at me rather than barks.  Not me anyway.

What did he "sell out"? Just last month Czysz put up a pretty cogent analysis of the MotoGP shift back to 1,000cc and the advantages & disadvantages that posed to MotoCzysz. Sounded very much like the rule change to 800's pretty much killed their MotoGP effort, pushed them into developing electrics, and that the move to 1,000 puts a lot of wind back in their sails for MotoGP in 2012.

http://www.motoczysz.com/club/

Even if they do go to MotoGP with a gas-burner, I'd be really hesitant to dismiss his claim that electric vehicles are the future of performance motorsports. Will they be battery-powered with quick-charge capability? That's certainly coming. Or fuel cells instead? You guys DO realize what a fuel cell does, don't you? It converts fuel (hydrogen, alcohol/methanol, whatever - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_cell) into electrical current. It's still going to be an electric motor putting power into a wheel.

I love the sound, the feel & the (current) performance of an internal combustion motor. But gasoline is going to exit from the stage sooner or later, because it won't be the best way to make a wheel turn. I love the sound & feel of steam engines, too, but steam's day came and went in vehicles, including some high-performance (for the time) race cars. 
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2010, 11:03:07 AM »

a) nuclear powercore that constantly generates heat to recharge the battery. Expected life: 85 years
pick and choose your battles. You dont want a bike that can potentially make you sterile do you? Tongue

then the manufacturers would have nothing to fix...good point.

and lastly the answer is YES, I don't want to go snip-snip so this would be fun and enjoyable versus the alternative
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2010, 11:06:45 AM »

What did he "sell out"? Just last month Czysz put up a pretty cogent analysis of the MotoGP shift back to 1,000cc and the advantages & disadvantages that posed to MotoCzysz. Sounded very much like the rule change to 800's pretty much killed their MotoGP effort, pushed them into developing electrics, and that the move to 1,000 puts a lot of wind back in their sails for MotoGP in 2012.
 

I wanted him to develop the bike and make it marketable to the masses although it would have taken a decade I'm sure.  I simply loved the bike and am sad to see it go.  This prototype was the most exciting in a century IMO and no amount of money will replace what I perceived to be genius....well, several hundred million would help.  Shocked

If gasoline becomes illegal then catch me if you can because I DO NOT like electric bikes, never have and never will.  Future or not the hype is there and I firmly believe hydrogen is the long-term future.  No way they can economically phase out gas for batteries with the "lack" of technology they have built into it right now and for that matter the future.  Just saying......HYDROGEN!  Grin
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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2010, 11:45:17 AM »

me no likey quiet bikes. wheres the brooOOOOOOOMmmm ? ??
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