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« Reply #135 on: May 13, 2010, 10:32:02 AM »

hmmm...ponder this...Hayden and Jorge on the Duc...who is the #1 rider then?...someone who has 2 years experience on it, or someone who is an alien batshit fast with a period of acclimation necessary to the machine?!?!?!
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« Reply #136 on: May 13, 2010, 10:35:47 AM »

Whomever gets the more money.
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« Reply #137 on: May 13, 2010, 10:53:58 AM »

Lorenzo.
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« Reply #138 on: May 13, 2010, 11:02:12 AM »

Whomever gets the more money.

whichever rider gets the results.
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« Reply #139 on: May 13, 2010, 11:25:59 AM »

Since when has a job been dependent on results?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #140 on: May 13, 2010, 11:39:39 AM »

i still think that there is or is going to be simultaneously a very very large check and effort from HRC to get Jorge on a repsol bike.
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« Reply #141 on: May 13, 2010, 11:41:34 AM »

Only if they get rid of the turd. They hate each other.
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« Reply #142 on: May 13, 2010, 11:47:04 AM »

Since when has a job been dependent on results?  Roll Eyes

Exactly...
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« Reply #143 on: May 13, 2010, 11:51:14 AM »

Since when has a job been dependent on results?  Roll Eyes

Exactly...

the question was "who is number one on the team?"

with the exception of repsol honda in 2006, it's generally the rider that's performing.
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« Reply #144 on: May 13, 2010, 11:52:45 AM »

bah, colin was very successful in that role.

(..'that role' being valentino's tire developer)
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« Reply #145 on: May 13, 2010, 03:27:34 PM »

given hayden's recent results, lorenzo is probably less scared of the ducati than he was last year.

plus he's already got a good starting point for the salary negotiations.
Not sure I understand your logic about Jorge being less concerned with Ducati in light of Nicky's results lately.

I thought Nicky was running closer to the front.?

Wouldn't Jorge be more concerned with the fact that Nicky is getting the " hang " of it finally ?

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« Reply #146 on: May 13, 2010, 03:50:43 PM »

Not sure I understand your logic about Jorge being less concerned with Ducati in light of Nicky's results lately.

I thought Nicky was running closer to the front.?

Wouldn't Jorge be more concerned with the fact that Nicky is getting the " hang " of it finally ?

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Everyone was scared of the 800cc D16 because no one not named Stoner could ride it. Some fine riders, including Melandri and Hayden (1st half of last year) couldn't do much more then bring up the rear on it.

Hayden doing well now means Ducati may have tamed it a bit so other people can be fast on it...a good thing if Lorenzo is considering switching.

He probably doesn't care if Hayden is fast. He still went to Yamaha knowing Rossi was there.
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« Reply #147 on: May 13, 2010, 04:13:43 PM »

Lorenzo is on a different level than others that have ridden the Duc.  There might be reservations, but I would doubt he'd go to the back of the grid on the bike.  I think if they toss the cash, he's leaving.
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« Reply #148 on: May 13, 2010, 04:16:22 PM »

Everyone was scared of the 800cc D16 because no one not named Stoner could ride it. Some fine riders, including Melandri and Hayden (1st half of last year) couldn't do much more then bring up the rear on it.

Hayden doing well now means Ducati may have tamed it a bit so other people can be fast on it...a good thing if Lorenzo is considering switching.

exactly... ducati had offered lorenzo €7 million ($9.3M, double his offer from yamaha)... you have to have a really good reason to turn down a $4.7M pay increase.


He probably doesn't care if Hayden is fast. He still went to Yamaha knowing Rossi was there.

he went to yamaha (and stayed last year) knowing that rossi and burgess were there ensuring the yzr-m1 was a championship-capable machine.
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« Reply #149 on: May 13, 2010, 04:17:20 PM »

Lorenzo is on a different level than others that have ridden the Duc.  There might be reservations, but I would doubt he'd go to the back of the grid on the bike.  I think if they toss the cash, he's leaving.

look at my post above... they did offer the cash last year and he said "no thanks."
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