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Re: Single Sided Swingarm
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Reply #15 on:
January 22, 2010, 05:52:02 AM »
Quote from: fasterblkduc on January 22, 2010, 03:37:03 AM
Spot on. Ducati Corse used to complain a lot about the SSSwingarm and all the headaches it caused for setup due to the massive flex issues. True, they look nice but I prefer dual sided. I really like the GP looking one on the 696.
corse didn't, foggy did... at one point,, they made him a dssa 916/996 to test (and likely told him to stfu afterwards).
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Re: Single Sided Swingarm
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January 22, 2010, 06:07:54 AM »
Looks...they just look better. That is subjective of course, but it seems to be the overriding belief.
The 1198 SSS is lighter and stiffer than the 999 DSS (as was mentioned before)...
After owning DSS and SSS bikes, I'd have a hard time going back to DSS. Chain maintenance and tire changes are WAY easier on SSS bikes.
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January 22, 2010, 06:28:00 AM »
Quote from: Triple J on January 22, 2010, 06:07:54 AM
Looks...they just look better. That is subjective of course, but it seems to be the overriding belief.
The 1198 SSS is lighter and stiffer than the 999 DSS (as was mentioned before)...
After owning DSS and SSS bikes, I'd have a hard time going back to DSS. Chain maintenance and tire changes are WAY easier on SSS bikes.
+1 for the most part. Chain adjustment is super easy & getting the rear wheel off & on is stupid fast.
Personally I think the new SSS is bulky looking and a tad ugly compared to the 916 style but I understand and accept that it needs to be in order to work.
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January 22, 2010, 06:53:04 AM »
Quote from: EvilSteve on January 22, 2010, 05:17:21 AM
I think that their leaked marketing document spelled out why pretty clearly - customers wanted it. You can call it tradition or market demands but the fact is that Ducati made the decision not for technical reasons.
I would agree with that. It's about giving custom something that no other manufacturer is able to provide - whether it be the SSS/rear wheel, the overall style, or the racing prestige. How else can Ducati charge a premium over the Japanese4?
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January 22, 2010, 06:58:46 AM »
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 21, 2010, 10:26:49 PM
FYI, the correct engineering solution is almost never the answer.
Truer words have never been spoken.
Quote from: Triple J on January 22, 2010, 06:07:54 AM
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The 1198 SSS is lighter and stiffer than the 999 DSS (as was mentioned before)...
~~~SNIP~~~
Where did that info come from?
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January 22, 2010, 07:10:50 AM »
To me this ends the debate
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January 22, 2010, 07:16:51 AM »
Quote from: Speeddog on January 22, 2010, 06:58:46 AM
Where did that info come from?
Ducati. This is what they claimed when the 1098 was released, and they were explaining the new manufacturing process for the SSS (and that big ass weld down the side).
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Quote from: Triple J on January 22, 2010, 07:16:51 AM
Ducati. This is what they claimed when the 1098 was released, and they were explaining the new manufacturing process for the SSS (and that big ass weld down the side).
Thanks, that's kinda what I remembered.
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Quote from: EvilSteve on January 22, 2010, 05:17:21 AM
...I prefer a SSS because as a rider, it makes it really easy to adjust chain tension (no checking alignment), it's easier to clean the wheel and it just looks awesome.
Me too.
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Re: Single Sided Swingarm
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January 22, 2010, 08:30:12 AM »
Quote from: Raux on January 22, 2010, 07:10:50 AM
To me this ends the debate
No one is (or should be) debating that the SSS is a better solution technically with the exception of endurance racing. The DSS is on the GP bike because it's a technical blue sky bike. The 1x98/848 is a road bike and needs to sell, it sells better with SSS. To sum up, you're right, it does end the technical debate but the debate about the SSS on production bikes is a different discussion.
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January 22, 2010, 09:07:19 AM »
I was leaning toward the simple fact that people just liked SSS on ducati's. Monsters get modded to SSS well before the S2R came out.
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Re: Single Sided Swingarm
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January 22, 2010, 09:35:35 AM »
Quote from: He Man on January 22, 2010, 09:07:19 AM
I was leaning toward the simple fact that people just liked SSS on ducati's. Monsters get modded to SSS well before the S2R came out.
Yup, I know the first guy that ever did it. He did it on a 900 back around '97. People went nuts for it.
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Re: Single Sided Swingarm
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Quote from: fasterblkduc on January 22, 2010, 09:35:35 AM
Yup, I know the first guy that ever did it. He did it on a 900 back around '97. People went nuts for it.
Al Gore?
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January 22, 2010, 02:00:13 PM »
This comes up every few months, and the answers are always the same.
I propose we next debate the relative merits of
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January 22, 2010, 04:01:58 PM »
SSS's look great - as long as you're looking from the side they're not on -
Just IMHO mind you
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