cheers Loony, i gave the WD40 a good go but it was no dice. Well i actually got the bottom pipe moving with tapping with a rubber mallet but the top pipe is no dice. I'll have another shot with the WD40 over the weekend and hopefully it can eat away some of the grim like you suggested.
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