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Re: Performance suggestions for my S4
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February 02, 2010, 01:19:57 PM »
They can be obtained through Motowheels at a pretty good price under member discounts, last time I checked, just over 3k up to 3.5k I thought.
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Re: Performance suggestions for my S4
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February 02, 2010, 01:24:42 PM »
really going to make that much difference than my magnesiums?
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2001 Monster S4, Termignoni/ECU, DP short air box w/BMC filter, Rizoma Zero's front/back, Cookie tail chop, Rizoma belt covers, Evoluzione slave, CF all over
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February 02, 2010, 01:25:54 PM »
approx a pound a half of rotating weight per wheel removed.
you could go with really lightweight rotors (like the ceramic ones) and make up most of the difference I believe.
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Re: Performance suggestions for my S4
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February 02, 2010, 02:47:13 PM »
Quote from: fouramdesigns on February 02, 2010, 01:24:42 PM
really going to make that much difference than my magnesiums?
If you have mag wheels already I wouldn't change to BST's, there's not enough difference. I would do the suspension then the brakes (calipers/masters).
If you are going to do a CF tank look at the ETI fuel cells, the DP are prone to leak.
You are better off waiting until you can do the whole motor at once like ato said. It would be a pain in the ass to do just a little here and there. Also, for 2grand your not going to get too far, new SPS cams run $1,200-2,000.00, pistons $500....
Just ask me how I know, Commonwealth is finishing up the motor on my 1036CS:
Ducati 1036CS First Start after Engine Build.
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Re: Performance suggestions for my S4
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February 03, 2010, 04:45:44 AM »
Great advice guys. After sitting down and thinking this out. First plan of attack is to lose bike weight, suspension, cosmetics. Then build the 916 out all at once. Also, send me some links for some engine performance parts.
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February 03, 2010, 04:47:59 AM »
You might think of acquiring a nice "box" to put supplies in. I do this with projects. You slowly accumulate the necessary parts and eventually you'll have everything you need, then you fill a piggy bank for labor.
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Re: Performance suggestions for my S4
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February 03, 2010, 05:10:25 AM »
Where can I find the SPS cams?
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2001 Monster S4, Termignoni/ECU, DP short air box w/BMC filter, Rizoma Zero's front/back, Cookie tail chop, Rizoma belt covers, Evoluzione slave, CF all over
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Re: Performance suggestions for my S4
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February 03, 2010, 05:23:20 AM »
Call Mark at Ducshop and talk with him a little bit. He should be able to provide insight into DP or SPS cams, there's also possibly VeeTwo cams available online through their eBay shop.
You can pull your heads and have them sent to DucShop or MBP to have them ported a bit.
Nichols lightweight flywheel.
Don't know if your exhaust is a full system, but that can open things up.
Lighten up the clutch.
Look at gearing.
Brake Rotors.
Lightening: Get rid of the world's heaviest battery. You could use a smaller conventional battery, or a 123A pack (Speedcell). Carbon fenders and tank. Replacing small parts with carbon is more decorative, but bigger parts give a measurable drop in weight. The brackets for several things on the bike are steel and don't need to be - Examples include the fuse box bracket on my bike. No reason for that thing to weigh so much. Headlight bucket is heavy and a carbon version is available. Replacing cast parts with billet - sidestand is very heavy, triple trees and rearsets..
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Re: Performance suggestions for my S4
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February 03, 2010, 06:24:56 AM »
The VeeTwo SPS 4v cams a no longer available, checked awhile back.
An option on cams would be SPS intakes and G grind exhaust. I would however do what the person helping/building recommends to get the most out of the motor.
links:
fuel cel-
http://www.eti-fuelcel.com/DUCATIMONSTER.HTML
pistons-
http://www.ducshop.com/product_view.php?cat=6&pid=267
flywheel-
http://www.ducshop.com/product_view.php?cat=12&pid=334
clutch-
http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=1652%7CMonster%20Clutch&productID=2262&showDetail=1&categoryID=1681
custom machined parts-
http://home.comcast.net/~aortner264789mi/FirstPage/1stpage.htm
If your looking for a specific part post up.
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Re: Performance suggestions for my S4
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very helpful. thanks guys.
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Re: Performance suggestions for my S4
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+1 on the BSTs they were by far the best upgrade I put on my S4. I'll be doing the rotors too before I get around to upgrading the engine innards too. The guys at motowheels are great it's more than worth the $ they have for them. Just make sure you have your wheels put on by someone competent. I went through hell with mine.
I drive to Nashville from time to time. If you want to test my bike out to get an idea of what a difference the wheels make.
I also have a set of ST4S headers along with the stock cans if your wanting to keep the low mount exhaust look.
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Re: Performance suggestions for my S4
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February 03, 2010, 07:21:43 AM »
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=34274.0
"used Ducati S4 full Termignoni titanium system $500 shipped"
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Re: Performance suggestions for my S4
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February 08, 2010, 04:51:00 AM »
Quote from: tonkoshala on February 03, 2010, 07:13:18 AM
+1 on the BSTs they were by far the best upgrade I put on my S4. I'll be doing the rotors too before I get around to upgrading the engine innards too. The guys at motowheels are great it's more than worth the $ they have for them. Just make sure you have your wheels put on by someone competent. I went through hell with mine.
I drive to Nashville from time to time. If you want to test my bike out to get an idea of what a difference the wheels make.
I also have a set of ST4S headers along with the stock cans if your wanting to keep the low mount exhaust look.
Yeah they would be great, message me when your headed though. Thanks for the offer.
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Re: Performance suggestions for my S4
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February 08, 2010, 03:29:27 PM »
My 01 S4 w/ 30k miles; tweaked for lightness (now if I could lose some weight...
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Mag wheels, carbon tank (DP, but no leaks after a full bit of reparation) pod air intake, shortened arrows, braketech rotors (front), numerous TI bolts and a few other tasty bits that I find aesthetically pleasing.
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Re: Performance suggestions for my S4
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February 08, 2010, 05:06:38 PM »
Ok, so I am mulling the BST wheels. You guy's really believe in the performance vs cost ratio over piston/cams? What would my red Marchesini's be worth? Thoughts on Ohlins forks? I want performance, and would help cosmetics as well. Or would I be better of saving money with Race Tech and have the forks powder coated?
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