Multi 1200 - 15k mile Valve Adjutment Intervals

Started by Drjones, February 05, 2010, 05:44:04 AM

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IdZer0

Quote from: NAKID on February 08, 2010, 03:25:06 PM
The interesting thing I see is that for the majority of buyers won't hit the first valve service before the warranty runs out.

Not to sure about that. Target audience isn't the current monster or SBK owner but rather touring riders who in general ride a lot more. Question is whether the real touring riders will bite.

on a side note:
Ducati Multistrada 1200 spotted testing
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Raux

finally a normal sized rider to show us how big the bike is

IdZer0

Maybe it's because I'm vertically challenged, but I wouldn't call someone that flatfoots a bike with 850mm seatheight 'normal sized'  :-\
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replaced by 2011 848 EVO

Monsterlover

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lethe

Quote from: Monsterlover on February 25, 2010, 02:34:49 AM
I can flat foot it. . .
Yes ,but like Travis you are also an Ent and therefore nowhere near what we humans call normal sized.
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sbrguy

here is the thing i'm thinking,

many people have said that the first or second valve checks at 6 and 12k miles are the ones where you have to change the shims bc the collets are work hardending, then the intervals can be spread out to 10-15k bc many have found that the numbers dont change as much in general.

now maybe ducati is saying ok, do the intervals at 15k miles basically skip the 1, 2 intervals and change shims then.  now maybe your bike after 6k miles still runs right but bc the valves are not "perfect" but only slightly out, then it won't affect things too much.  maybe most people wouldn't even know the difference bc its so gradual, then when you get to 15k, all the shims are out of spec but now you change all of them, but your collets are now work hardened and then the next interval at 30k miles very littl has changed.

just a thought on my part, who knows none of knows for sure until someone gets one of these things and put the miles on it and does it a couple of times.

IdZer0

maybe the minimized 11° overlap compensates the valves being out of spec somehow?
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mitt

Quote from: NAKID on February 06, 2010, 06:51:25 PM
20K mile oil changes? Where are you getting this? First change at 5k, then 10k, then 20k, 30k, 40k, etc...

My renault while living in France had either a 30k km or 20k km oil change interval right in the manual.  It was insane.

And yes, I think the 15,000 miles ducati is advertising is BS.  You can make incremental changes in engineering, like gaining 10 or 15% at a time.  I have never experienced a design evolution that gains 100% like they are claiming.

mitt


Monsterlover

Mitt, I can see your logic and agree with it.

However, think about how many miles the test bikes get ridden. Isn't it possible that while testing the new engine design they discovered that valves stayed in spec consistently longer?

Enough so that they could extend the service intervals?

/devil's advocate :)
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**