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« on: March 12, 2010, 10:49:25 AM »

I have been looking around but there is nothing really this spacific so I thought I'd ask.

Rearsets:
  I'm 6' and have lage calves and when I'm riding the s2r for long periods it sometimes feels like my knees are going to explode Angry.  It is ok after I strech my legs out a bit but I want to try to fix it so I can ride for longer periods of time.  Would getting new rearsets fix this problem?  What rearsets would work?  I know that the rizoma rearsets are very adjustable but I was hoping that I would be able to get something cheaper...I don't mind being uncomfortable but this problem is getting to me....I don't want to spend the kind of money that is needed for new rearsets without knowing if it would make a positive difference and that it will make the best difference.  I wanted new rearsets for the bling factor anyhow but this is the biggest reason why I'm looking at them.

Clipons:
  This has to do with the bling factor more than anything (lol don't judge me you know that you do it too) but I have been looking into clipons and was wondering what people's experiences with different rise clipons with my height (6') are...I know...I know...search button Roll Eyes.  But just because people talk about how comfortable they are it doesn't mean they always list their height.  I'm not sure what rise to go with (the lower the better  Evil) because I want to be able to ride for long periods of time (10hr days, multiple days in a row).  as you can see above, I am looking into rearsets if that makes a difference.  I'm going to try flipping the bars, but I want to get that ugly thing out of my sight (there are few ugly things on the monster Grin).  Thanks for all the help guys  chug
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2010, 10:56:12 AM »

Im about 5"10 or 5"11 and I love my tomasellis with stock rearsets.

just enough rise to eliminate fitment headaches and so adjustable that you can go as aggressive as you want. If you do a fork swap you could potentially mount them upside down above the triple even.

you will need to lower your headlight for any clip ons to fit (unless you go with something like the speedymoto tall boys, which put you very close to stock)

gille also makes some very pretty but expensive pieces (~$350)
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2010, 01:08:46 PM »

I'd have thought rearsets would make your problem knees worse as they usually move the footpegs upwards as well as back a bit.
 Theres plenty of posts on clip ons here and as many opinions on their advantages and disadvantages.
I like mine but then I wont be riding 10 hours a day.
10 hour ride with stock set up- sore butt and back. 10 hour ride with clip ons - sore wrists and back.
Take your pick Grin
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2010, 02:27:19 PM »

I'm 6'4".
My rearset pegs are 10mm down and 40mm back (CycleCat) GillesTooling are the only available now with the same adjustment range. Rizoma offers only back and/or up - their foremost and lowest position equals stock peg position.
I'm not sure anything will help your knee issue - maybe aftermarket pegs with a better knurly grip? Plus moving around on the bike. 10 hour rides will hurt regardless I would think?

Clip ons. I have clip ons with risers, but the grip is still at least two inches lower than stock. For me it's a better position, but that's mainly because they feature a more natural angle for my wrists. YMMV. Apex has adjustable riser clip ons - no issues with clearance or lines (other than some easy rerouting maybe).
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2010, 11:41:35 PM »

thanks for all of the replies Smiley I knew that they moved up and back but the reasoning that I thought it might be better is that all I think I would need is to bend my knee a little less (might have just been a weight issue, I haven't been able to ride my moto since last summer when I was 85 lbs heavier b/c of school) and I thought that by moving my foot back it might solve that issue.  It looks like it wouldn't however so hopefully it will be more comfortable now that I've lost 85 pounds and I can feel better while riding.  I'll see how it goes this week since I'm back from spring break.  I bend pretty far over anyway when I ride leaving me with my elbows poking out so idk....I'm going to try flipping my bar this week, does anyone know what rise this would be similar to as far as clipons go?  would they be along the lines of tallboys?

The issue I have with clipons is that I am not sure what rise would fit me best and I was thinking about going with tallboys, however I don't want to spend that kind of money to find out that it is still too tall... thanks for the help Grin
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2010, 02:56:01 AM »

Moving the pegs back will open up the hip joint angle, but the knee angle will remain about the same with some more weight on them. After loosing 85 lbs a lot of your issues will be gone, so footpegs positioned back might be ok for you. What I found after moving pegs back was that now I want to lean my upper body forward as well, in a SuperBike position - which made lower clip ons work out very well.

Flipping the bars will lower the grips about an inch.
Swatt 3.5" or the new Apex with adjustable risers will position the grips about two inches lower than stock.
SpeedyMoto Tall Boys puts the grips at similar height as stock.

The three clip ons options I talk about can all be adjusted down if you want to.
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2010, 10:00:15 AM »

Thanks for the help  Grin  I'm leaning towards speedymoto tallboys now and I'll probably get gilles or rizoma rearsets because I'm going to look for something that can be adjusted to stock position, yet be able to be more agressive if I want them to.  I think I've been going about this all wrong where I was looking for pure agressive bits, I think if I use those then I will be able to have agressive AND a comfy ride when I'm looking to go on a long ride [moto]
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2010, 11:13:36 AM »

I think your logic is working for you waytogo

One small detail: are you on a 800 or a 1000? You see, if you have "coffin" style built-in brake/clutch fluid reservoirs - you will need spacers to allow rotation/adjustment/clearance of your brake and clutch controls

http://corsair-industries.com/parts/Ducati%20Billet%20Parts/Ducati%20Clip-On%20Spacer/

Jeff at MonsterParts used to have them. Give him a call and ask him what he can do.
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2010, 04:19:51 PM »

I'm on an 800 so thanks for the tip  waytogo
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2010, 05:47:40 PM »

Hi!  I'm also on an 800 ('03 Sie), and very recently installed clip-ons.  I'm a believer in ergonomics and suspension first, so I ended up with SBK forks and Cycle Cat clip-ons on top, resulting in the bars at the EXACT same height and width as stock, but with more sweep, exactly matching the angle of my outstretched relaxed hands.  Also helping matters was going with a Ducati low seat (20mm lower), which effectively adds 20mm more height to the bars.

I also have the coffin reservoirs, but with the extreme adjustability of the Cycle Cat bars, I didnt need the spacers from Corsair!  Alas though, Cycle Cat went belly up some time ago, I got one of the last sets of 53mm SBK clip-ons from Oncycles for cheap.  If you want to try this route the kit number is DBR01-06.  If you check my recent posts, you'll find a link to some pics, or let me know and I'll post a link here.

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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2010, 10:09:28 AM »

I have been looking around but there is nothing really this spacific so I thought I'd ask.

Rearsets:
  I'm 6' and have lage calves and when I'm riding the s2r for long periods it sometimes feels like my knees are going to explode Angry

Hey Mac,

This is exactly why I had to get rearsets.  I had a knee injury/surgery years ago, and the stock pegs required too much of a flex for me to ride comfortably for any real length of time.  I wound up installing MFW Vario adjustable rearsets, and while they are nowhere near as pretty as the Rizomas, they made a very big difference in my riding comfort.  I was able to adjust them back and slightly DOWN, which was what I needed for my left knee.  I still have some issues there, but it is a VERY major improvement compared to stock.

I also installed Tomaselli adjustable clip-ons, which are quite low (below the triple), but have a pretty good range of adjustment for me.  I don't find the bike uncomfortable to ride, even for hours at a time, and the improvement in handling was dramatic (for me.)  I suppose a 10 hour day would be tough, but I've actually done some nearly that long (with breaks), and didn't have any issues.  For the most part though, I ride in the local canyons and wouldn't go back to stock unless I wanted to re-fit the bike for commuting or frequent touring. 

Hope that helps! 

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