Animal Rescue Nazi's

Started by Piller, March 12, 2010, 01:23:22 PM

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derby

Quote from: Piller on March 12, 2010, 02:10:34 PM
I'd never have imagined that the shelter would still have some kind of custody of the dog even though I bought it.  The certaintly didn't warn me about it.  Sure I guess I signed something with that in there, but they just put paper after paper in front of me to sign - paraphrasing the agrement with "oh this is just for blah blah, sign here".

next time, read them.
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acalles

wow dude, weak sauce.

one whole week?

seriously. when I got my dog as little puppy last year, I spent 3 months trying to make sure he knew to go out side, mind you, I had him for one week when my pops accidentally stepped on him and broke his leg, I here i was making sure he didn't pee on his cast, while getting him out side at 3AM in the winter with a broken leg. and that little fart was hard headed, he only wanted to pee where he wanted to pee and some times I had to walk his limping ass down the road at midnight before he would pee. neighbors must have though I was crazy, I was worried about the damn mountian lions!

only once did I ever get mad at him, when he was about 8mo old, he jumped on my bed (not allowed) then pee'd.. >:( >:([laugh]

its funny now, but at the time I was MAD, since it was 11pm and I was exhausted. I put him on his lead and left him out side for about a hour while I cleaned up the mess and cooled down...

If you get a dog, realize, depending on the breed, its gonna be 6 mo to a year before they know exactly what they are supposed to do and not do. if you cannot commit to that kind of work don't get a dog, and after that, its still hit or mis..

Vindingo

#17
Quote from: SacDuc on March 12, 2010, 01:32:31 PM
Screw you for thinking you could actually handle that responsibity. I mean wow, three whole days you spent with the dog. And I'm just sure you spent hours with it making it comfortable and doing basic training things with it, right? You already had it signed up for training classes and you've read tons of books about how to deal with a rescue dog, right? Pets aren't cutesy little snuggle muffins there solely for your amusement, jackass. The adoption agency should not only keep your $500 they should have rolled you in the parking lot for whatever else you had on you before sicking a rabid pitbull on you. What the make the beast with two backs is the matter with you!?!?!
Don't breed. Ever.

sac


/has three rescue dogs
//one was completely feral and found on the streets of Compton
///the cop was right

wow you rescued 3 dogs! where do I send the metal of honour?  Streets of Compton eh?  Does that give you street cred?  

The guy wanted to sell the dog to make some of his money back.  He wasn't trying to profit off of the dog.  He did nothing wrong to the dog.  He didn't harm it or abuse it.  He deserves to be attacked by a pitbull?  

As for your last few sentences... you've got issues dude.  Get over yourself.  


Bun-bun

Quote from: SacDuc on March 12, 2010, 01:32:31 PM
Screw you for thinking you could actually handle that responsibity. I mean wow, three whole days you spent with the dog. And I'm just sure you spent hours with it making it comfortable and doing basic training things with it, right? You already had it signed up for training classes and you've read tons of books about how to deal with a rescue dog, right? Pets aren't cutesy little snuggle muffins there solely for your amusement, jackass. The adoption agency should not only keep your $500 they should have rolled you in the parking lot for whatever else you had on you before sicking a rabid pitbull on you. What the make the beast with two backs is the matter with you!?!?!

Don't breed. Ever.

sac


/has three rescue dogs
//one was completely feral and found on the streets of Compton
///the cop was right

Wow, overreact much?
Sounds like the problem was with the SO, not the OP. She wanted the cute puppy, but not the not-so-cute puppy behavior.
I looked at getting a shelter cat last year, but with the hoops I would've had to jump through(Home visit,spay/neuter agreement, adoption paperwork, and fees, etc.), I decided to buy a cat.

I still support our local shelter, buying and dropping off food every month, and saving old papers for cage liner, but I understand the OP's point of view.
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Piller

Quote from: Triple J on March 12, 2010, 02:04:42 PM
I would think you should have received at least a partial refund...although I do not know the finances of the rescue. $500 for a rescue seems high...but it depends on the market and their expenses.

They don't want you to sell of give the dog away because it most likely would end up in a shitty home that way.

I can understand covering the cost of a rescue.  But they'll get that when they sell the westie again.  They're getting double at my expense for making a bad decision.  The only thing they're out is the time it took to sell the dog to me.  I wouldn't mind paying for that, but not $500.

There are two separate issues here were talking about,

1) making a bad decision
2) no refund / no resale policies

I agree with you guys on #1, but not #2.

And I can understand it's to prevent an animal going to an abusive home... But in that case there should be a blanket law against selling animals, and a single procedure for everyone to follow when wanting to sell an animal. Or they should clearly post a "no refund" policy that also makes abundantly clear they get the dog back for free if it's not working out for you.

The dog is a very lovable dog, and he was well taken care of.  That's not the issue at all, which sacduc was trying to make a case for saying I probably didn't read anything, inquire about training, etc.  

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hbliam

Read what you sign and get advice on how enforceable it is if you don't understand. I signed one of those when I adopted a cat. It said she couldn't go outside. I think she's outside right now.  :) When they are able to get a judge to sign a search warrant I'll keep the cat in the house.

The dog sounds like it had three very shitty days with you (sorry couldn't resist), why should it be subject to your judgement when it comes to a new home? You obviously didn't care much where it went as long as you got some of your money back. Even after informed of what you had signed you still tried to sell the dog.

I say move on.

Piller

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Quote from: hbliam on March 12, 2010, 03:09:50 PM
Read what you sign and get advice on how enforceable it is if you don't understand. I signed one of those when I adopted a cat. It said she couldn't go outside. I think she's outside right now.  :) When they are able to get a judge to sign a search warrant I'll keep the cat in the house.

The dog sounds like it had three very shitty days with you (sorry couldn't resist), why should it be subject to your judgement when it comes to a new home? You obviously didn't care much where it went as long as you got some of your money back. Even after informed of what you had signed you still tried to sell the dog.

I say move on.

of course I still tried to sell it, screw them - I bought it.  We had three shitty days, the dog had a blast.   I tried to return it after three days, we had it a week.   And I had a preference to sell the dog to this lady who seemed to really want it more than other people.  I got about 20 calls with interested people.  Lets not make this a "you must hate dogs" issue.  I love animals, which is  part of the reason I see an incredible injustice for them to get the dog back to go in a cage and ignored while it learns to sleep in its own feces until they make another $500 off it.  Two of the dogs they showed had feces on their fur.

So... they're supposed to be the authority now on how to care for pets and who can sell what to who?  screw them.  I gave the dog three baths in a week and sat willingly with him knowing he was going to pee or poop with me there on the floor - just to train him.  I could have easily just locked him in a cage somewhere and not dealt with it.

Once I saw the GF wasn't going to care for it while I was at work, etc.  I thought it should be with a family who would better care for it.  I didn't want to come home every day to dog poop all over my dog and clothes and floor.

NoisyDante

Westies are known to be somewhat rambunctious, they're a high energy breed who needs a lot of attention and a lot of play time.  It sounds like you or your lady may need a dog that has a much more subdued temperament, especially with a two year old in the house.

I disagree with everyone telling you to not adopt another dog in the future.  There are too many dogs in shelters as it is.  Find a dog with a noticeably calmer demeanor and give it a good home.

And maybe think of your lost $500 in that it's a donation for feeding and sheltering other homeless dogs.
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hbliam

Quote from: Piller on March 12, 2010, 03:21:10 PM
of course I still tried to sell it, screw them - I bought it.  

Why are you even posting the story here? You looking for someone to validate your poor decisions?

fastwin

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At least we knew going in that we didn't want a puppy. I've been through the destructive, nightmarish time of puppyhood. [bang] They all look so cute in the ads. ;D We adopted an older girl with a semi sad past. She's a good dog, loved to death and spoiled rotten. But the key was to go after a good 2-5 year old dog that was mature and good natured. Not many folks want the older dogs, everyone wants a pup... until they get one! Our rescue group also had a contract but they clearly had a clause about returning the dog to them if things didn't work out. No sales allowed. I don't recall an immediate refund but I think (and my wife confirms) that they will go to great lengths to find you a more suitable pup. Plus it was only $200 and they were "fixed", chipped, and all current on shots. Sad, but it's not like there is a shortage of adoptable dogs. And it helps that they do not specialze in one breed type. If it's got four legs, a tail and goes bark they will take it in and adopt it.

I won't call you names and wish you never owned a dog, maybe just re-think what kind of pup might work better for you. [thumbsup]

SacDuc

Quote from: ducpainter on March 12, 2010, 01:54:29 PM
Hey Sac...

I know you're upset, but calling Piller names is against the rules.

Please edit your posts or I'll have to do something that will make you hate me again.

Sorry Mr. ducpainter.  :-\
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SacDuc

Quote from: Triple J on March 12, 2010, 02:04:42 PM
I would think you should have received at least a partial refund...although I do not know the finances of the rescue. $500 for a rescue seems high...but it depends on the market and their expenses.

They don't want you to sell of give the dog away because it most likely would end up in a shitty home that way.

We paid $800 per for two of our rescues and they both have the exact same policy that they can only be returned to the shelter if we decide to give them up. No refunds. Its like a long term lease. A lot of the better rescues are doing this now. Piller is great example of why this is becoming necessary.

sac
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SacDuc

Quote from: Vindingo on March 12, 2010, 02:34:01 PM
wow you rescued 3 dogs! where do I send the metal of honour?  Streets of Compton eh?  Does that give you street cred?  

The guy wanted to sell the dog to make some of his money back.  He wasn't trying to profit off of the dog.  He did nothing wrong to the dog.  He didn't harm it or abuse it.  He deserves to be attacked by a pitbull?  

As for your last few sentences... you've got issues dude.  Get over yourself.  




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sac

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lethe

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My house has always been full of animals that people I know or people that people I know know couldn't keep or handle or just plain didn't care about anymore.
From dogs, cats, iguanas etc, there is always a long pain in the ass factor to put up with and sometimes they never become perfectly well behaved but we can put up with it all. Our Akita/Pitbull has come a long way in terms but is still not exactly what I'd call a well behaved individual.  [laugh] But you know what, you look her in her dopey eyes and she really wants to be good just doesn't always know how, can't turn away someone who tries.  :)
Hell, my wife hasn't sent me back to the pound yet.
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