Project 2v SBK 4/1/10 update

[duccarlos]

Did you buy the 749R from anyone in Atlanta? I've only met one person with that bike.

[TAftonomos]

Dang...a 999R even. 

Well, I think you're crazy...a 999R is a bad machine! Personally I'd pick up a newer style Supersport frame and pimp that out. Good luck though...I'll follow it for sure. 

Be sure to get before and after weights on the project. It'll be interesting to see how much slower you made it.   

The idea is to use a kick ass chassis, which the 999r (any 999 w/27mm offset) is.  Just happened on this bike, so thats what I'm using.  A SS chassis would be going the wrong direction for what I want.  This is the "easy" way.

Hell, I make the 999 slow just by getting on it.  Don't need 150whp for a track toy, and no this bike won't be covered up with fairings either...

[stopintime]

Do you have a weight goal?

(yes, for the bike)

[1KDS]

...or a Supersport frame. Seems it would be easier and cheaper.

SS frames are junk, 999 frames are superb, I don't think he's going for easy and cheap either.

[1KDS]

749R had eccentric in head stock, didn't it?

yup

[ducpainter]

SS frames are junk, 999 frames are superb, I don't think he's going for easy and cheap either.

I'd disagree about the SS frames...

[1KDS]

compared to a 999 or in general?

[ducpainter]

compared to a 999 or in general?

Both...

The 999 chassis is not all that different from a 748-9**. I own one (996) and the things are brutal to get turned.

The SS on the other hand, which I've also owned, was easy to turn and reasonably stable at speed.

I'm not discounting the superiority of the SBK chassis at all, just that the SS is far from crap and both have their strong points for different riders.

[TAftonomos]

MUST do the 27mm offset and flip the eccentric around on the 999.  1 line on the forks showing, rear axle back near the limit, and the ride height up there....she will turn

Stock they are very stable, but you really need to muscle them around.  Dropping the triples and raising the height will help a bunch...but nothing feels like that new offset and eccentric change.  You can change just the eccentric without doing the new triples...if you dare.  I didn't like it at all setup like that.

CA-Cycleworks tells me a FCR'd 1000ds motor will make 100+hp to the tire.  Unless I mis-understood him that was with stock heads as well!

I'd like to say 300lbs is my goal, but BST's arn't in my budget, and neither is a Ti frame.  I think I can hit 350 fairly easily.  I've also been thinking about a single rotor/caliper, as mentioned above.  I suppose if the bike isn't heavy, that ought to work just fine?!?

[1KDS]

the R has an aluminum subframe doesn't it? That should help

[TAftonomos]

All the mono bikes do   Like Stew said, it'll get a "trimming"

[junior varsity]

749R > 999R.

Its not as bad as if he'd taken the 749R frame. That'd be real shame.

[Raux]

CA-Cycleworks tells me a FCR'd 1000ds motor will make 100+hp to the tire.  Unless I mis-understood him that was with stock heads as well!

no i think with that's with the MBP testarossa heads

[junior varsity]

Those were 900's bored for 95mm pistons (964cc...err "966" Monsters and SSs)

http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/shop/heads/heads.html

[TAftonomos]

All the frames are the same on the 999 bikes (OEM).  There isn't one that is better, or one that has better geometry.  The 749 does have an eccentric in the triple, which is seperate from the headstock (kinda a double eccentric) which allows you to change the triple offset and the steering angle. All the other 999's (save the dark) can adjust the steering head angle, but to get the magic geometry you need to purchase an aftermarket triple with different offset.

The 100hp to the tire was on stock cams, stock heads w/FCR's.  

You can spend the money on MBP heads with the factory fuel injection to get 100hp on the 1000ds motor
You can spend the money on MBP heads with FCR's on a 900 to get 100hp.

You can get 120hp w/fcr's, headwork and big bore on a 1000ds  

A real shame?  Comeon now, you're not one of those elitist subscribers to the daily church-o-ducati's scriptures....are you?   I bought the 999r cause the motor is worth more for parting, which is what is helping fund this project.  There was/is an equally nice 749r, that was the first choice...but I found the 999r