What makes a company "green" in your opinion?

[NorDog]

Hell, send the things into space.  To borrow from a very old Pink Floyd song, "Set the controls for the heart of the Sun."

[Triple J]

Colorado?

negative

Guessing out west somewhere in a dry desert land buried in some sort of concrete pool?

Yes, and no. Yucca Mtn. is out west, in the desert, and is perfect geologically speaking. Also consider it is on the test site which is pretty f'ed up already. No one will ever live there, or use water from below (WAY below) there. No concrete pool though...sealed vaults inside a tunnel.

[Randimus Maximus]

And I heard of a joint hydro/nuclear plant somewhere here in the states.

Here's how it works.

Nuclear plants need to run at a certain speed or temp or whatever they do for maximum efficiency.

Problem is at night when demand drops off dramatically.

They keep the plant running by pumping water from one reservoir uphill to another reservoir.

During the day, water is released through turbines to make supplemental energy.

Rinse and repeat daily.

[cyrus buelton]

Chlorophyll

Don't you mean Borophyll?




I'm here to LEARN EVERYONE!

Neighboring states don't want the waste rolling through their cities on railcars due to fears of an accident.

Another problem of mine.

We can fly a drone air craft in the Hindu Kush mountains from Washington DC and pin point fire ordinance into an object.

But we can't make some carrying container that if involved in an accident can't withstand impact?


again..........doesn't make sense.

[Triple J]

Hell, send the things into space.  To borrow from a very old Pink Floyd song, "Set the controls for the heart of the Sun."

I've said that for years. I guess the problem is what happens when the rocket fails? Also, the waste still has to be carried as close as feasible to the equator for lunch...so the same transport problems that have Yucca Mtn. all screwed up.

[Triple J]

And I heard of a joint hydro/nuclear plant somewhere here in the states.

Here's how it works.

Nuclear plants need to run at a certain speed or temp or whatever they do for maximum efficiency.

Problem is at night when demand drops off dramatically.

They keep the plant running by pumping water from one reservoir uphill to another reservoir.

During the day, water is released through turbines to make supplemental energy.

Rinse and repeat daily.

Shaver Lake in the southern Sierra Nevada Mtns. currently does that...minus the nuclear option. They just pump it back when power to do so is available and cheap.

[angler]

Find a battery technology sufficient to store enough electricity to run cities, and the situation changes.  But even then there would be questions of diminishing returns and environmental impact of batteries of such scale (if indeed they are ever technnically possible to begin with, which I doubt).

If there is water, we have the ability.  http://www.fact-index.com/l/lu/ludington_pumped_water_plant.html

"The Ludington pumped water plant is a hydroelectric plant and reservoir in Ludington, Michigan. It consists of a reservoir 110 feet deep, 2.5 miles long, and one mile wide which holds 27 billion gallons of water. The reservoir is located on the banks of Lake Michigan. The powerplant consists of six reversible turbines that can generate 1872 Mw of electricity.

At night, during low demand for electricity, the pumps force water 363 feet uphill from the lake into the reservoir. The plant takes advantage of the natural steep sand dune landform of eastern Lake Michigan. During periods of peak demand water is released to generate power. Electrical generation can begin within 2 minutes.

This process helps level the load of coal-fired power plants on the grid. It also replaces the need to build natural gas peak power plants used only during high demand."

Big 'ol battery.

Back on topic - Green Labels.

There is absolutely no regulatory authority about the use of "green" like there is for "organic" or "USDA prime."  Buyer beware.  Anybody can label themselves green for any reason.

[Triple J]

But we can't make some carrying container that if involved in an accident can't withstand impact?

We can and have.

Problem is convincing people again.

See a trend?  In most projects the engineering is the easy part. 

[NorDog]

If there is water, we have the ability.  http://www.fact-index.com/l/lu/ludington_pumped_water_plant.html

"The Ludington pumped water plant is a hydroelectric plant and reservoir in Ludington, Michigan. It consists of a reservoir 110 feet deep, 2.5 miles long, and one mile wide which holds 27 billion gallons of water. The reservoir is located on the banks of Lake Michigan. The powerplant consists of six reversible turbines that can generate 1872 Mw of electricity.

At night, during low demand for electricity, the pumps force water 363 feet uphill from the lake into the reservoir. The plant takes advantage of the natural steep sand dune landform of eastern Lake Michigan. During periods of peak demand water is released to generate power. Electrical generation can begin within 2 minutes.

Where does the power come from the pump the water up into the reservoir?

[angler]

Where does the power come from the pump the water up into the reservoir?

Coal fired plants.  But the juice could come from anywhere.  Point is, it is an energy storage facility.  Pump when the wind blows, drain when it doesn't.  I have no idea what the efficiency is.  If you put one in AZ, the efficiency would be less because you would be loosing a lot to evaporation.

[NorDog]

I wonder how many windmills it takes to pump 27 billion gallons of water up a 363 foot hill.

[Pip]

Don't you mean Borophyll?

No... Chlorophyll. The thing that makes plants green.  

[GAAN]

"you wouldnt need batteries to run cities, just buildings when you switch from one source to another"

I don't know what this means.  Can you explain?  Are you saying that each building needs its own Uniterrupted Power Supply?

yep, pretty much

[GAAN]

as to storing spend nuclear fuel

that process is called vitrification

and it exists already as well

http://www.srs.gov/general/programs/solidification/index.htm

[Rev. Millertime]

Another problem of mine.

We can fly a drone air craft in the Hindu Kush mountains from Washington DC and pin point fire ordinance into an object.

But we can't make some carrying container that if involved in an accident can't withstand impact?


again..........doesn't make sense.

We have.... for over 20 years:

Train Crash Test @ 160km/h (99.4 Miles) into 50 tonne Metal Block

Rocket Powered Train Inpact Test