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« on: March 17, 2010, 01:04:01 PM » |
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Boys and girls, as I slowly go through my shopping list I have encountered a problem: The exhaust system.
Currently it has the termi slip ons, ecu, and air filter. I now want to get rid of the cat converter and get this thing sounding nice, unfortunately Ducati say that I can not just buy the headers as they are 50mm, and the slip on exhausts are 45mm. I would have to buy the complete system again which has the ecu, air filter and full 50mm system. That package will set me back $4800!!
Um, Mcproblem. Any one have some ideas?? I'm willing to pay for a custom system as that will still be cheaper than the ducati price.....
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Nickati
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2010, 01:36:44 PM » |
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Easy fix, Fit the new front half and then go to a good exhaust shop and buy an adaptor from 45-50mm, cut the length of this adaptor out of the system & fit the rear half.
Problem solved !
Easy.
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White Lion
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2010, 03:01:23 PM » |
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How will the mapping on the ecu go?
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Nickati
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2010, 03:14:03 PM » |
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It shouldn't be effected as this will not change the overall length of the system.
I can't see the 5 mm smaller diameter of the Termi's being an issue.
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mattyvas
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2010, 03:42:29 PM » |
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Sell the Termi Slip-ons
and go shopping in the US.
Boom tubes
Arrows
MIVV (personal Fav)
Akro (Love it)
to name a few.
ECU I'd be asking Ozducati/Carbon Imports about that special priced Micro Tech ECU.
IMO Termi's are a bit cliche for a Ducati but then that is just my thoughts.
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Betty
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2010, 03:45:35 PM » |
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So they do sell the 50 dia pipe as a separate item then? If so it may still be cheaper to get a custom pipe (you know Ducati prices and all that + the mods required).
Perhaps there is an option for another after market pipe which is sold as a 'cat eliminator' which I would assume is made to suit the stock 45 dia ... but I don't know if that is an option for the S4Rs (I know Spark used to make such a thing for the S2R 800, but that wouldn't help you).
As for the ECU, I have no idea ... but can guess at the advice you would receive from NFI.
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2010, 03:47:24 PM » |
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Thread jack sort of. Why: when removing any enviromental element from an exhast system (eg cat converter) on a car resulting in a HUGE fine does the same on a motorcycle not attract the attention of Mr  ? Or should I just be verwy vewy quiet  |
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Betty
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2010, 04:19:47 PM » |
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Or should I just be verwy vewy quiet Yep. Although as far as I know I have never had an 'authority' check the presence or existence of such a device on any of our vehicles. |
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mattyvas
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2010, 04:22:24 PM » |
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I'd be just Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh about that Dez.
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White Lion
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2010, 04:56:21 PM » |
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Just measured everything.... The slip ons are actually 50mm, with the mid pipe being 45mm tapering into 50mm at the connection point. If the slip ons are 50mm, can't i still get a 50mm system that just slides over the connection rather than having a taper point? ...Did that just make sense? Because i confused myself  |
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vossy
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2010, 05:01:43 PM » |
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A mate of mine bought the termi slip ons with ECU and filter and mated it up to a Spark midpipe no probs!
He has a 2005 S4R
Hope this gives you some insight
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2010, 05:02:03 PM » |
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most coppers don't know where the line is drawn for enforcing the cat/emissions issue on bikes, especially when most are hidden internally (yes, i know hugh is a LEO and being a rider he probably does, but most don't.
as for fitting a 50mm header and adapting it to the existing mid pipes, i wouldn't. 5mm can and will make a difference, i know this because my 03 S4R had very restrictive std headers feeding an arrow system. i got pissed off at having to weld these headers constantly because they are poor quality so i fitted a set from a 996 which meant a few mods, the main one being the headers had outside collars for the mid pipe rather than tapering down to fit _IN_ the arrow mid pipe. sure it looked like it would flow freer but i picked up 35 klms before the fuel light came on so it is much more efficient than it was. i still have to reset the co's but it doesn't feel lean, it still behaves properly so it seems i am using less throttle % than before for the same type of riding.
I agree with mattyvas completely, sell the slip on system and buy a full exhaust, i would buy the termi full system though, it comes with the ecu and looks "dead sexy!"
paul.
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White Lion
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2010, 05:23:02 PM » |
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Loony, i re-read my post. I think i did make it confusing....
The connection point that i mentioned is the connection between the mid-pipe and the exhaust. So, if the exhaust is 50mm, could i get the 50mm mid-pipe/headers and just slide it on?
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