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Author Topic: Mid-sized Monster 796 Coming to USA  (Read 40464 times)
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« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2010, 09:37:11 AM »

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That would be a great monster line up! 400ish, 800ish and 1100ish. Perfect. Or do away with the 1100 and just have the monsters be the baby bikes. The Hyper, the race bikes should satisfy the hooligans and speed demons.

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As fun as that sounds, I like the Monster 1100 more than the Hyper 1100.
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« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2010, 09:48:29 AM »

I would be all over a Monster 1100 dark for around 10k....Do that instead! 
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« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2010, 10:11:29 AM »

they would have to lower the price point on the regular monster 1100 a bit first i think

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Monsters
696... gone
796... 8995
1100 dark... 9995
1100 ... 10995
1100 S ... 12995

HM
796... 9495
1100... 11495
1100 SP... 13495

SS
796... 9995
1100... 11995
1100 SL... 13995

MTS
1200... 14995
1200 S... 18995

SF
1198... 14995
1198 S... 18995


SBK
848 dark... 12995
848... 13995
848 SPS... 15995
1198... 16995
1198 S... 21995
1198 S Corse... 24995
1198 R Corse... 39995

put the lowering option out there for the 796 models
the SS could easily use the Monster frame setup with minor changes
the 848 SPS is a limited edition with ohlins and slight changes
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« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2010, 12:23:26 PM »

Not that much to figure out I think; the 1100 was priced to high. For some reason they can't/won't lower the price. Only option is is a lower spec'd  version.

Sure.  But cutting into the 1100 and 696 sales by producing yet another model doesn't make any sense.  This is exactly the sort of model line up they were moving away from with the 695 (DSS), s2r (SSS w/ 800cc engine), s2r100 (the big air cooled), s4rs (water cooled).  Now it looks basically the same -- 696, 796, 1100, SF.    WTF, Ducati?
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« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2010, 12:25:06 PM »

By the time my wife caves and lets me buy one, the 796 will be out!  I just like it for the height, as being a 6' 215lbs guy, I was worried the 696 was going to be a little cramped...

you can lift a 696 for $20
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« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2010, 12:54:27 PM »

Sure.  But cutting into the 1100 and 696 sales by producing yet another model doesn't make any sense.  This is exactly the sort of model line up they were moving away from with the 695 (DSS), s2r (SSS w/ 800cc engine), s2r100 (the big air cooled), s4rs (water cooled).  Now it looks basically the same -- 696, 796, 1100, SF.    WTF, Ducati?

Exactly. Drop the bigger monsters and let the hyper and a smallish affordable SS or SBK fill the niche and be the transition for Ducati enthusiasts into the bigger bikes.

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« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2010, 02:04:44 PM »

The 400s are tax/licensing bikes.  Only sold where needed and not that great for hp:weight
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« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2010, 03:28:47 PM »

The 400s are tax/licensing bikes.  Only sold where needed and not that great for hp:weight

I don't want a lot of power  Smiley
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« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2010, 03:31:40 PM »

I don't want a lot of power  Smiley

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« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2010, 03:38:04 PM »

I don't want a lot of power  Smiley

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« Reply #40 on: March 23, 2010, 03:55:19 PM »

On the other hand it offers a SSS but with 696 power...Wonder if it will weigh less or more than the 696?

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« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2010, 05:29:43 PM »

I love these line-up debates. The problem Ducati have for the smaller bikes is the psychological $10k barrier in the US ... we are waaay past that in Australia.

I would tip the 796 will replace the 696 ... if they are going to try and keep both, they should try their luck with proper suspension on the 796 (and/or a dry clutch) - but that will probably bugger up the $10k cap.

Similarly the SF848 makes sense to a consumer but would likely stuff up all the bigger air cooled line-ups ... all the components are already there ... its just a matter of what they think will mean more bucks for them.

I wonder how many of "us" would actually go through with an upgrade/purchase if they offered the bike "we" all think they should build.
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« Reply #42 on: March 23, 2010, 05:45:46 PM »

I don't want a lot of power  Smiley

Exactly. My cock is big enough and I don't need to strap a 150hp rocket to the end of it. How about Ducati makes a truly entry level bike? There are Rebels and Ninja 250cc. Why not a m400? Light, easily lowered, and priced as an entry level bike. Would this really ruin the cache Ducati has for being the maker of $30k super bikes that go 11ty billion mph? The little monsters are the best selling bikes for Ducati after all. Why not pursue that end of the market more? Or would this actually cheapen the brand the same way those horrible C class cars cheapened Mercedes? I'm torn.

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/still hopes they go smaller instead of bigger
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« Reply #43 on: March 23, 2010, 06:26:09 PM »

On the other hand it offers a SSS but with 696 power...Wonder if it will weigh less or more than the 696?



aren't SSS heavier and not as stiff / ridgid?
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« Reply #44 on: March 23, 2010, 06:27:51 PM »

I wouldn't be able to answer if they are heavier or not? Someone care to chime in with some knowledge on this subject? On the other hand, I guess our exhaust will still fit this one too....
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