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Author Topic: How much trust should I put in my tires while riding in the rain?  (Read 7200 times)
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« on: April 15, 2010, 04:31:01 PM »

Hello all, I'm fairly new to motorcycling and was curious what others thought of riding in the rain.  I'm not sure how much faith I should place in my tires when the ground is wet.  I obviously don't plan on riding too aggressively if I get caught in the rain, but how good are the BT017 (I believe this is the correct stock M1100 tire) in the rain?  I'm an experienced mountain biker, and know what it feels like to push those tires to their limit, but a low side on a bicycle at 30 mph is quite different than wiping out my brand new $10K monster!  Thoughts..... popcorn
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2010, 04:41:13 PM »

my thoughts on it and im sure that someone will chime in, but i got my first ducati about a month before the gp race in indy where it rained the whole time.  anyways, i went down and watched the race in the rain and figured that if they can do it so can i.  i know im not pushing my bike even close to the limit they are so i figured i should be safe.  just dont get stupid and you should be all right.
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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2010, 07:23:06 PM »

Do watch out for markings on the road, the do become slippery when they are wet.
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2010, 08:41:10 PM »

i ride in the rain alot here in hawaii.  more then i care to to think of really, but with either my 848 or my Gfs 696. i have found that for most parts its pretty much the same (considering you follow the speed limits) just be cautious of painted lines cause they do get slick, and watch for standing water that might be covering a POT HOLE ... (those really suck) or just might be deeper then you anticipate. 
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2010, 08:48:54 PM »

my thoughts on it and im sure that someone will chime in, but i got my first ducati about a month before the gp race in indy where it rained the whole time.  anyways, i went down and watched the race in the rain and figured that if they can do it so can i.  i know im not pushing my bike even close to the limit they are so i figured i should be safe.  just dont get stupid and you should be all right.

Not to knock this comment but those guys are professionals. There are not many "street" riders who can come close to how they ride. Two other things about the professionals. One, they're getting paid to ride in the rain and, therefor, don't have much of a choice. Two, they have sponsors that will fix or replace a bike that gets wrecked.

I wouldn't push anything to the limit in the rain. IMO it's better to get home safe and unscathed. Then push it to the limit when it's dry.   Wink [moto]
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2010, 01:03:36 AM »

I could not agree more with ^^^^
When its raining I do these things
30+% slower
Avoid anything with paint or metal on the road
In corners I keep the bike more upright and get my body way over as a counter weight.
Give way more distance between me and the car in front.
No sudden brake grab just a gentle initial squeeze with even firm increases.
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2010, 01:36:05 AM »

If you ride a little slower, stay a little more vertical, leave a little more space, watch the painted lines, metal (sewer plates, etc) and remember the roads are extra slick when the rain starts you will be fine.
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2010, 03:26:28 AM »

What howie said + be smoother on your inputs.
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2010, 05:13:57 AM »

Regardless of rain or not, those painted lines make me nervous.  Again, I don't know what kind of traction is available on painted lines when they are dry.
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2010, 05:30:03 AM »

Manholes are extra slick too.


That said, I ride the bike the same in the rain as in the dry.


Keep in mind, I'm on a motard with rain slicks  Cool
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2010, 12:25:45 PM »

I ride in the rain pretty often this is what i learned

a) people are make the beast with two backsing retarded and will slam on the brakes, keep your distance.
b) your brakes, depending on pad type, will probably not even work since they are cold as ice. Keep your distance because braking distance increases by alot more than just 2x.
c) if its pouring, traction on the front wheel, is pretty good. same with the rear. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. Dont gun it, you will step out the rear, and dont slam on the brakes, because once you get them hot enough and dry enough they are going to suddenly bite
d) if its been drizzling, this is probably the most dangerous time. Everything isnt wet, its slippery because the oils in the groun hasnt washed away.
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2010, 12:02:05 PM »

After a good dump of rain (30 mins of heavy rain) you're looking at probably 80% grip depending on the tires and depth of water you're riding on.
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2010, 05:49:44 PM »

it's no problem in local road since you can just slow down.
but if you have to stay on the highway, then there is a problem.
it's more dangerous if you are slower than traffic and those waters from other cars?
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2010, 07:58:04 AM »

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t's no problem in local road since you can just slow down.
but if you have to stay on the highway, then there is a problem.
it's more dangerous if you are slower than traffic and those waters from other cars?

My own 2cents...the highway can actually be drier than side roads in some conditions, especially if it's not a downpour.  Around here (Ohio), interstates are more sloped and elevated than city streets, and so are often the first to dry after a rain.  I'll even sometimes jump on the interstate to avoid sloppy city streets, sometimes. Of course, if it's pouring rain, that's a different story. 
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2010, 08:09:14 AM »

I didn't see it mentioned so I will add that the rain is going to make your tires take longer to get up to temperature (if ever) so be especially cautious when you first start riding. I have found though that my two best friends when riding in the rain is awareness and confidence.
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