2001 Monster 750

[fstdy]

I just bought a 2001 Monster 750. With no knowledge of the Monster family. I am wondering what years and models will parts fit on my bike?  Anything I should know? Is there another name for my bike? I have seen M750, S2R S4R on posts. Anyone have parts send me an email pls. fstdy@hotmail.com

Thanks
Fred

[junior varsity]

You have an M750 or Monster 750.

Its from the "hooped" monster or "classic" monster generation. All parts from 2001 and earlier 750's will fit the bike. Many parts from 2001 and earlier 900s will fit the bike. Some parts from the double sided swingarm bikes from 2002-2009 will fit your bike. The MS4 or "S4" Monster also has a double sided swingarm, similar to yours (the same as the 2002+ Monsters with DSS) and is a 4-valve, liquid cooled, superbike engine in it. The S4R, S4Rs and S4Rt employ a
single sided swingarm, and use some generation of the 4-valve, liquid cooled superbike engine. The S2R 800 and S2R 1000 (sometimes generally referred to as an S2R despite the large differences in motors) use a 2-valve motor, similar to yours, but from a newer generation.

"No" parts from the 696 or 1100 Monsters ("New Monsters") will be easily adapted to your bike.

Your Monster, being a 2001, has a frame based on the 851/888 superbikes. Neat little bit of trivia for you there. (There's had a removable subframe, where ours is welded, but that's the nature of the SBKs).

[junior varsity]

You will be able to use Rizoma rearsets. Any 50mm clipon that your heart desires. You will not be able to use a SpeedyMoto top triple, but that's ok, because for only a few dollars more, you can get a full triple set (top and bottom) in billet aluminum from IMA SrL in Italy.

You should be able to find aftermarket levers without issue in case you want either fancier looking, or adjustable levers. Slingshot Racing (Slingshotracing.net) makes a special reverse shifter for Monsters using OEM rearsets that's slightly shorter so its correctly positioned for your toe, if you want to use reverse shift.

Damn near any pair of slipons for a DSS Monster can be made to fit.

Your bike, iirc, is carburetted. The original equipment carbs can be tuned to function a tad nicer, but if you are looking to feel any zip out of the bike, do not delay - as I had delayed - in getting a set of Keihin Flatslide carbs (Your bike would take FCR 39's, since it is a 750). Chris at CA-Cycleworks gets them from Sudco. Get them from him, and not only would you be supporting a board sponsor, but you'd also be paying less than getting them from Sudco. Go figure.

Turn Signals are a matter of taste. Some people don't feel like spending any money on them. If you do feel like spending money on them, avoid the "carbon look" signals. They forgot to delete the word "carbon" from the package label, and it should simply read "look like crap" signals. Rizoma signals are nice, but are spendy. Kellerman are nice. There's another one I cannot remember right now that I also really like.

QuatD makes an exhaust that will work with your bike that exits right before the rear wheel. I had one, it was fun, looked neat and sounded nice. Then I found some sweet reverse megs so it was goodbye Ex Box, hello DP megs.

Rear shock placement prevents you from using a shock with piggyback reservoir, but its easy to order one with a tethered reservoir when you are upgrading. The most commen "top-shelf" replacement shocks are Ohlins and Penske. There are many reputable suspension 'brokers' out there. I suggest working with your dealership if you can on a lot of this, because they'll be able to tune both suspension and engine for you and a good working relationship with a dealer is invaluable. For your forks, if they are non-adjustable, you can upgrade to either (a) adjustable forks from another Monster, or (b) you can grab superbike forks that are adjustable and have better valving to begin with (different size outer dimensions, grab some IMA triples at the same time and be done with it easily). You can get cartridge kits for superior valving if you have adjustable forks (or if you've upgraded to superbike forks). You may be able to work with a suspension company like Traxxion Dynamics or GP Suspension to have your non-adjustable forks converted to adjustable and a cartridge kit installed all at the same time. They would certainly know either way.

Your ignition uses two pickups on a bracket and a lump on the flywheel. That signal is transmitted to Kokusan igniters (little black boxes near the battery). You can replace those black boxes with an Ignitech TCIP4 programmable box that allows you to set your ignition advance curve with your computer. The signal from the OEM igniters or from the Ignitech is then transmitted to the coils. If its the little black ones, they are weak. An upgrade to DynaCoils (3 ohm, iirc) is a great upgrade. Smooths out the power curve and makes the bike generally feel more awake all over. Both the Ignitech and DynaCoils are available from their respective manufacturers or from Chris Kelley. Much like the Keihin carbs.

If you've got Goldline brakes, you are pretty much good to go and changes won't be all that significant. If you are throwing on superbike forks at any point in the future, then you should be mindful of the brake caliper's brackets. There's three possibilities, 40mm mounts, 65mm mounts, and radial mounts (in several spacings). Likewise, brake rotors, should you be replacing them come with two variants - offset and # of bolt holes.

I'll stop at this point to let you catch up. I can keep going though. I hope your head as exploded into a gooey mess from my knowledge dropping.

[Christian]

This thread is awesome! I have an '01 M900 and while I knew most of this already, having it all in one place is a great read. Please continue.

[junior varsity]

Let me catch my breath. I got lots more for you.

[junior varsity]

The rear brake caliper mount, apart from the axle diameter is interchangeable from newer to older Monster and Supersports. If your rear axle and the swap-in part's rear axle are the same, then you are good to go. For example, I replaced my 6 o'clock (underslung) rear caliper mount (cast alu) with the 12 o'clock billet Nichols supersport caliper mount. Same size axles, direct swap. Its not lighter, but its a bit more rigid and more importantly at 12 o'clock, bleeding couldn't be easier.

Your pre-02 Monster comes from the factory with tapered roller bearings. You'll see folks with 02+ Monsters and Superbikes upgrading to tapered roller bearings. Thank goodness you don't have to upgrade yours for better steering feel (since it already came with 'em), but this is a wear part, and needs to be regularly checked for proper steering stem nut tightness (uses a spanner wrench) and replaced as the races where notches.

Your Monster - being air-cooled, and an '01 has the same cases as pretty much every other Ducati up to the 695. (The newest gen of cases looks slightly different and I haven't gotten my hands on one just yet to touch its innards, etc) The motor mounts are always in the same place. On the cases themselves, the superbikes are machined in at the swingarm pivot hole. I've also recently learned that on the 748 (and likely the 996/998) engine cases, the swingarm pivot hole is machined approximately 8mm lower at the center on that same face. Your swingarm bearings are actually inside the case in that pivot hole. The superbike's swingarm actually carries its bearings in the swingarm itself - hence the difference in the case machining right there. A swap is possible, but it can be laborious. On those superbikes, the pivot for the swingarm is stuck through the cases and tightened on one end by a bolt that's threaded into the rod. On our bikes, the swingarm is pinch-bolted around the pivot rod, iirc.

On the alternator side, The only changes are: Where the timing pick-up is (some run off the timing gear which uses a 46/2, iirc, tooth pattern - that is two recessed teeth, while my '99 and likely your '01 use a bracket with two pickups - one for each igniter to pick up the flywheel's timing 'lump'), whether or not it has a water-pump, which also runs off the timing gear shaft (I believe), and what the little cover's shape is. You can, I believe, swap an alternator cover off any other air-cooled bike onto yours, though you may have to plug up its timing air-gap sensor mount on models that employ that means for ignition timing.

On the clutch side, well - you have a wet clutch. Easier clutch pull, but a more challenging swap - it requires the oil to be drained for a clutch change. It is possible to convert a wet clutch to a dry clutch - Duck-Stew has done this on his M750, and Kopfjager had this done by DucShop on his M800 (859).

Your triple clamps are "special" because they use a narrower steering stem than the newer bikes. Perhaps one could swap in the newer gen's triples, but again - with IMA SrL around, there's no advantage to trying to figure it out just because you want a 30mm offset (yours is 25mm, newer Ducati Monsters are at 30mm, and IMA's set up for our older Monsters is at 30mm), or billet triple clamps. Like I have said time and again, Patrick Costa and (I believe) his brother are fantastic to deal with.

If you are still rocking Brembo's "goldline" master cylinders, you can upgrade these to the radial master cylinders from a 749/999 (or 848/1098/1198 if you can find them) for an improvement in feel. Not that you have to, by any means. You may have to swap in new brake lines for fitting orientation, but a quick measurement with some wire and a phone call to Spiegler to tell them the fittings you need will have you on the road with great lever feel in about a week. Likewise, simply replacing the aged brake lines for some nice braided lines with colored jackets can make an improvement as well. If your brake line setup has the manifold attached below the gauges on the top triple, it is a great opportunity to throw that in the trash and get a simple cross-over line or double banjo at one caliper end and a second line running to the other caliper.

A seat from any other Ducati Monster (up to the 695) will work on your Monster, though it may not look like it is flush with the tank on the sides. That had some odd year of change and the best way to determine which is which is to look at the Sargent seats application for Ducati Monsters. Note that if you change to a Sargent, it is more comfortable, due in part because it is wider, but it is also wider which you may find less "sporting".

If you are looking into Dampers, a Scott's Damper is mounted in part on the triple where the handlebars go and in part by a replacement ignition cover. Looks nice and has multiple adjustment features. You may also use a "purse-snatcher" setup, which is sidemounted from the frame to a fork tube. Same setup as the Desmosedici has, so don't doubt its effectiveness. The "other" method, which I chose, was an under-triple mount damper. I got the billet mount setup from Motowheels, but I've just found another Monster M900 (1998 vintage) which uses a Ducati Performance under-triple damper mount as well (thanks for the knowledge drop, JB!)

I believe your speedometer is mechanically driven like mine. If it is, you'll know because a cable leaves the back of the speedometer housing and travels down to the "clutch-lever side" (left side) of the front wheel. Newer Monsters run a pickup off the rear wheel on the caliper mount bracket. I can't recall which year this changed.

[junior varsity]

That's it for me today on this. Throw some more questions up to prompt my knowledge reserves, I'm otherwise cashed out on things to just blurt out.

[The Bearded Duc]

@ a m

This is great, thanks. I also have an '01 750 and I knew a lot of this as well but like Christian said, it's nice to have all of this in one place. I'm sure I'll have some questions to throw your way very soon!  Thanks.

[duc_poultry]

I have 2001 750 also! wow what a club! if you want to see a cool 7 fiddy check this out http://www.flightcycles.com/flightcycles/HotrodM750/Originals/Hotrod_3317.jpg

[robert4919]

This might be a little off topic, but I hope not. I want to put a single sided swingarm on my 2000 Ducati Monster 900 ie. What "doner" should I look at? and what suspension.

Just to let you guys know what I did so far. I put an Ohlins front end on it from 2000 R1 race bike I had. I also mounted the marchesini  magnesium front wheel and the AP Racing brake calipers as well. I know its over kill, but I had the stuff just sitting there and wanted to try it. Now I want to try something on the rearend and need some help here. Any and all help would be appreciated and I'll post some pictures later on my project monster. 

[junior varsity]

Is yours an 01 or earlier? Its going to be a non-trivial modification. There used to be a febur kit, but it was not a direct bolt on. I would PM Jeff_H and see what he knows. For some reason I might think he has done this or knows about it, as well as Duck-Stew and others.

[Christian]

For a an '01 or earlier suspension-hooped Monster I personally think the shortest path to a single sided swing arm is a new frame.

If you get a bashed up SSS Monster with an intact frame, you can swap all your bits over to the new frame and use the suspension and swing arm from the old bike. Part out whatever's left.

Otherwise you're welding/modifying the frame on your stocker and that starts to become not worth it, IMO.