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« on: May 10, 2010, 12:43:18 AM » |
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I was at Summit Point Raceway yesterday and I did what I knew was inevitable: Dragged the sidestand.  The bike got wobbly and the grinding sound was as loud as the motor. I made it around the turn OK, but I want to avoid the experience again. Suggestions? |
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2010, 07:29:07 AM » |
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remove the side stand on the track and have a rear stand for the pits?
or raise the rear with the 1100 clevis.
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2010, 10:26:28 AM » |
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Couple questions - a) What's your weight in gear? - if a is more than 170 lbs, have you replaced the springs with something more suitable? Ducs are sprung for skinny euros  not us 'mericans b) How was you body position? Were you positioned to minimize the lean of the bike, aka hanging off (properly)? c) If you were riding Summit, how come you've never posted in CAM? Huh huh? |
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-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes. Good luck.
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2010, 02:54:34 PM » |
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a) In gear, about 215 lbs. b) Body position is good. Not just me saying it: A coach followed me around and said that was OK. I need to work on hitting the apex points better. I know that...  c) What is CAM? I went to Summit Point with Team Pro-Motion. |
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2010, 03:05:42 PM » |
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So you're my size to a dime. Which means the stock springs are way too soft. Especially for the track
CAM is the closest local area section to summit. There's a few 'members' who live right by the track. I figured if you were running summit you were some what local
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-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes. Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2010, 07:03:33 PM » |
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if he uses the 1100 clevis wouldnt that change the geometry?
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2010, 07:13:12 PM » |
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yes, it would a bit, but for the track i suspect it would adjust it in a positive way, but you'll have to ask a suspension guru. you also could change the front but pushing it through a bit, or better yet for his weight, changing forks.
and for certain he needs a stronger rear spring. probably his biggest problem.
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2010, 03:17:07 PM » |
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Thanks to all for input. The bike is in the shop now -- I can install rearsets and oil coolers, but I am still leery of suspension work. Longer clevis in the back, spacers up front along with stiffer single rate spring up front and heavier oil. I pick it up on Saturday and go hooligan for a while to get the feel. Then, on Sunday the 30th, off to NJMP on the Thunderbolt course.  I might still shave down the sidestand. |
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2010, 03:41:47 PM » |
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Why are you leery of suspension work?
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-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes. Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2010, 03:13:10 PM » |
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Why are you leery of suspension work?
I guess because I have never done it before. Could be simple. But, hey, I have effed up simple before!  |
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2010, 04:26:05 PM » |
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Well you could always take it to someone... If you were at Summit DucPond isn't very far off. Donnie and his guys would have no problem getting the right spring set ordered for you and then doing your base settings w the new springs
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-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes. Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2010, 07:13:50 AM » |
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mmm...ducpond. donnie is super cool, and love their little collection of bikes in the back |
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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2010, 07:40:02 AM » |
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DucPond is where I took it and I picked it up today. Donnie did the inspection and most of the work, though it didn't take much. Turns out the rear spring is stiff enough with a lot of preload. The front needed heavier oil and both front and rear needed raising: New clevis in the back, spacers up front. The bike stands nearly 1.5" taller. A 60 mile ride with some decent turns make me think this was the right thing to do. Next weekend will prove it when I head to New Jersey Motorsports Park.
I may still grind some off the sidestand.
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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2010, 07:47:41 AM » |
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spacers up front? please explain and pics?
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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2010, 07:54:45 AM » |
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Perhaps inside the fork legs.
Donnie and the gang do good work - good to hear he could sort things out with minimal invasion.
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-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes. Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.
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