What ever happened to people being real "neighbors"

Started by cyrus buelton, May 13, 2010, 06:21:02 AM

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I cut my neighbors lawn the other day






and sent Jud the bill
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Quote from: SacDucNo. I'm a different type of idiot altogether.

hbliam

Long thread with many different directions going. As I read I thought of a few things.

-I learned long ago it's ok to ask your neighbor to help you out with anything that isn't their normal job. They do that all week and don't want to do that on an off day. If they offer to help or see you doing it and jump in that's fine but never ask.

-RE: bugging doctors and such at the golf course. Poor taste. Lump cops in there too. We don't sit at the furthest table away from you on accident. Someone always has to come up and interrupt our short "break". I quote break because we can get called off of it at any moment and we are required to listen to the radio. If you need directions, want to say a quick hi, or there is an emergency, by all means come talk to us. If you got a ticket you want to talk about, your neighbor is a cop and you think we know every cop in the world, you are thinking of applying, or you want us to discipline your kids, move on.

-I'm also a contractor. I overbid jobs I don't want.

badgalbetty

real neighbours, yes this has gone in many different directions. A few days ago when I was going to Starbucks in Vancouver Wa I saw two Washington State Patrol officers walking back to their cars as their break was over. As I walked past I just said thanks Officers for all you do and the lady officer, said "your welcome neighbour!"
How cool!
I did not know her from Adam but what a great responce from a state employee who works hard to keep life good for the rest of us so to you good lady cop neighbour................. [beer]!
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cyrus buelton

Quote from: MrIncredible on May 16, 2010, 06:39:56 AM
Perspective.

IMO, it's not kind to the family to spend family time on the patients.

Or it is a lessen on helping people in need that are having issues.

Perspective, right?

Quote from: badgalbetty on May 16, 2010, 06:50:10 AM
I can tell you what happened in America about people being real neighbours. Its called greed,. Subdivisions all have 6 foot wooden fences in their yards. These do not promote friendships between neighbours. You are locked in to your own space. "OOOH Look at me!I have a big house in a new subdivision look at how well I am doing." Its bullshit. I live in an old house built in the 1940,s in an established neighbourhood. I have lived here for 6 weeks and know most of the neighbours already. I have a 10x10 foot room in that house. Thats my space. I spend time in the garden and in the garage and walking to say hi. I talk to my neighbours. I know their names. Its awesome. Big fancy houses and fences are wrong. Knowing my community is what its all about. If someone is in need the word gets out and we all help out as best we can. Thats what being a neighbour is all about. Greed and living in an ivory palace creates this not nice feeling you get when everyone has the perfect house with the perfect yard and debt up to their eyeballs. So your neighbour has a beemer? Mine has a honda like mine, beat up and runs. A car is a car it gets you from point a to point b warmly and dry. The other option is on the motorbike where you get cold and wet. My choice i guess. Fancy cars and houses impress me none. Been there and had it. Its all bolloclks and dont mean squat imo. [thumbsup]My .02

Sort of what I deal with.

Quote from: trouble on May 16, 2010, 07:05:31 AM
Maybe the "saw guy" simply does not like Jud.


[cheeky]

He shows an odd way of showing it!

He make the beast with two backsing harasses me all the time with stupid shit.

I should have charged him 200$ last year to lug his make the beast with two backsing old water heater up his stairs with him.

Quote from: hbliam on May 17, 2010, 03:27:22 AM
-I'm also a contractor. I overbid jobs I don't want.

Holmes was out of the contractor business when I approached him with work.

Based on what he has done, he pretty much sucks which is why he probably stopped.

Now he picks up jobs around the condo complex and rapes people for his prices.

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This whole thread should be in NOGAS.


I can see banding together with neighbors for something mutual, like keeping the road open.


Everything else-if you want it....do it yourself. We're not some group of individuals in this together. I need to take care of me and mine first.


Seriously-cut your own wood, install your own toilet, paint your own house, etc etc etc.

Or pay someone to do it.

Stop thinking people should help you for free-it's not how life works.

And just because you might help people for nothing doesn't mean you deserve the same. Life is unfair.


None of this is news.
If the state had not cut funding for the mental institutions, this project could never have happened.

rgramjet

Quote from: MrIncredible on May 17, 2010, 07:56:06 AM
This whole thread should be in NOGAS.


I can see banding together with neighbors for something mutual, like keeping the road open.


Everything else-if you want it....do it yourself. We're not some group of individuals in this together. I need to take care of me and mine first.


Seriously-cut your own wood, install your own toilet, paint your own house, etc etc etc.

Or pay someone to do it.

Stop thinking people should help you for free-it's not how life works.

And just because you might help people for nothing doesn't mean you deserve the same. Life is unfair.


None of this is news.

Youre just sore cuz none of your neighbors asks you to work on their rockets......

;D

Quote from: ducpainter on May 20, 2010, 02:11:47 PM
You're obviously a crack smokin' redneck carpenter. :-*

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SacDuc

Quote from: MrIncredible on May 17, 2010, 07:56:06 AM
This whole thread should be in NOGAS.


I can see banding together with neighbors for something mutual, like keeping the road open.


Everything else-if you want it....do it yourself. We're not some group of individuals in this together. I need to take care of me and mine first.


Seriously-cut your own wood, install your own toilet, paint your own house, etc etc etc.

Or pay someone to do it.

Stop thinking people should help you for free-it's not how life works.

And just because you might help people for nothing doesn't mean you deserve the same. Life is unfair.


None of this is news.

+1

Perfectly said. Now I have a man crush on you.   :-*


sac
HATERS GONNA HATE.

cyrus buelton

Quote from: MrIncredible on May 17, 2010, 07:56:06 AM
I can see banding together with neighbors for something mutual, like keeping the road open.

That's why you pay taxes for the county/city to take care of.


I'll never turn down a neighbor if they need help with a project.


I do care about helping others, some must not or not give a shit.


Just a difference of opinion.
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SacDuc

Quote from: cyrus buelton on May 17, 2010, 12:52:24 PM
That's why you pay taxes for the county/city to take care of.


I'll never turn down a neighbor if they need help with a project.


I do care about helping others, some must not or not give a shit.


Just a difference of opinion.

Its more than a difference of opinion. Its a combination of not wanting to be bothered and not wanting to be viewed through a horrifically judgmental lens that makes people say stuff like this:


Quote from: badgalbetty on May 16, 2010, 06:50:10 AM
I can tell you what happened in America about people being real neighbours. Its called greed,.


I mean, god damn that is an arrogant thing to say. Why does it have to be greed? What if some people just don't like other people. Such as, oh say, me. I don't like the asshole neighbor to the west that illegally rents his single family home as three units to eight people. I just want them all to shut up and leave me alone. I don't like the gaggle of asshole community college student neighbors who live in the apartments east of me. They make me weep for the future of America and I just want them to shut up and leave me alone. I wave to the neighbors across the street but the street is four make the beast with two backsing lanes of traffic. I'm not just gonna pop over and say "hi" every afternoon. I've hired that guy to do some data recovery for me. Never even considered it as anything other than me using his business. He sent me an invoice. I paid it and said thank you.

My six foot fences (which are apparently wrong to have in a picture perfect Norman Rockwell version of Mayberry) are to keep my dogs safe. And to keep them from eating the busy bodies that litter my driveway with the neighborhood gossip rag once a month.

Greed got nothing to do with it. Perhaps some of us don't want to interact with people who judge us constantly for not baking the neighborhood pies every other weekend. Maybe our ideal "friends" aren't people who judge us as greedy or selfish for not rushing over with a chest of tools every time we hear a saw kick on. Perhaps we're busy. If that makes us selfish, then fine, go whine to rest of the neighbors about us, just leave us the hell alone. Then everybody wins. We get peace and quiet and you get a sense of superiority. We have to struggle on our own to get our projects done and you have to put up with other people's shit whether you want to or not lest you face the wrath of the neighborhood judgment brigade.

sac
HATERS GONNA HATE.

Statler

Quote from: SacDuc on May 17, 2010, 02:16:45 PM
Its more than a difference of opinion. Its a combination of not wanting to be bothered and not wanting to be viewed through a horrifically judgmental lens that makes people say stuff like this:



I mean, god damn that is an arrogant thing to say. Why does it have to be greed? What if some people just don't like other people. Such as, oh say, me. I don't like the asshole neighbor to the west that illegally rents his single family home as three units to eight people. I just want them all to shut up and leave me alone. I don't like the gaggle of asshole community college student neighbors who live in the apartments east of me. They make me weep for the future of America and I just want them to shut up and leave me alone. I wave to the neighbors across the street but the street is four make the beast with two backsing lanes of traffic. I'm not just gonna pop over and say "hi" every afternoon. I've hired that guy to do some data recovery for me. Never even considered it as anything other than me using his business. He sent me an invoice. I paid it and said thank you.

My six foot fences (which are apparently wrong to have in a picture perfect Norman Rockwell version of Mayberry) are to keep my dogs safe. And to keep them from eating the busy bodies that litter my driveway with the neighborhood gossip rag once a month.

Greed got nothing to do with it. Perhaps some of us don't want to interact with people who judge us constantly for not baking the neighborhood pies every other weekend. Maybe our ideal "friends" aren't people who judge us as greedy or selfish for not rushing over with a chest of tools every time we hear a saw kick on. Perhaps we're busy. If that makes us selfish, then fine, go whine to rest of the neighbors about us, just leave us the hell alone. Then everybody wins. We get peace and quiet and you get a sense of superiority. We have to struggle on our own to get our projects done and you have to put up with other people's shit whether you want to or not lest you face the wrath of the neighborhood judgment brigade.

sac
;D

nah.  It's greed allright.  greedy people who think neighbors should do shit for them.   Notice it's not the guys doing the stuff that are here ranting...

I'd drop everything I was doing to help some people.   Others I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.   Their homes proximity to mine has little to do with it.
It's still buy a flounder a drink month

GAAN

Quote from: SacDuc on May 17, 2010, 02:16:45 PM
I mean, god damn that is an arrogant thing to say. Why does it have to be greed? sac

I have a question

why is that arrogance?

best case it is an educated opinion

worst case an assumption

but why arrogance?

SacDuc

Quote from: Mother on May 17, 2010, 03:09:16 PM
I have a question

why is that arrogance?

best case it is an educated opinion

worst case an assumption

but why arrogance?

Not just that but most of the rest of the post. But the greed comment is arrogant for the following reasons. Condemning someone who values one set of things (in this case actual things and money and such) and then stating that the the right things to value just happen to be exactly what I value (neighborliness, etc.) is presumptuous at best. Going on to say that the values of the other people actual cause ill and harm in world is in my opinion arrogant.

This line of arguement might work if "bad neighbor" was substituted with a universally agreed upon evil like "rapist" or something. But to make the following progession is to me, arrogant:

Some people are bad neighbors.
They are bad neighbors if they have fences, big houses and don't talk to their neighbors.
Greed makes them this way.
I am not greedy.
I talk with my  neighbors and do not own a big house.
The way I live my life is superior to the way the greedy live their lives.
I take it upon myself to judge who is greedy and a poor neighbor.


sac



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Quote from: cyrus buelton on May 17, 2010, 12:52:24 PM
That's why you pay taxes for the county/city to take care of.


I'll never turn down a neighbor if they need help with a project.


I'm probably last on the list of roads to clear. If anyone can make a call, what with the lines being down and all. My wife is knocked up-if there's a tree in the road, I remove said tree (odds are I'm bringing it home to burn it anyways).



This might be because you're in a condo. Houses tend to need a lot of work.
If the state had not cut funding for the mental institutions, this project could never have happened.

hbliam

Quote from: Mother on May 17, 2010, 03:09:16 PM
I have a question

why is that arrogance?

best case it is an educated opinion

worst case an assumption

but why arrogance?

I initially considered her post arrogant as well. The inference that somehow she is better then someone else because she has decided to aspire to nothing more then a rented 10x10 room is what did it for me. That's fine if that's what she wants. It's also fine to want a big ass Gates style house on the lake as long as you get it with honor and integrity. There is a difference between greed and ambition. Fancy houses and fences are wrong and helping the community is what it's all about? Sheesh  [roll]...helping my family have a safe and secure life is what it is all about. Not to mention I would be willing to wager that we are able to help more people in our community with some of our discretionary income then the poster that looks down on me because I bought my wife a Beemer (she had an old Honda too  ;)).