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« on: June 01, 2010, 08:00:24 AM »

Looks like the days are numbered:

http://www.motomatters.com/news/2010/06/01/125s_to_be_replaced_by_four_strokes_from.html

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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2010, 08:03:15 AM »

Is this really a surprise? With Moto2 being successful so far, it was just a matter of time.
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2010, 08:39:57 AM »

hell...just make the Moto3 out of what has been brewing and budding with the E-Grand Prix machines.....
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2010, 05:42:04 PM »

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The class will be composed of 250cc four-stroke single cylinder machines, MCN reports, replacing the 125cc two-strokes currently being used.

SPROING.

Although personally, I was hoping for a bit more displacement, but as long as the power is in the ballpark of 33 HP, I'm all for it.

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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2010, 01:38:04 PM »

I read that Roadracingworld.com article he was referring to. They had a lot of problems getting a 450cc four stroke to hold together for a USA sprint race distance. Can't remember if it was WERA or something else. I can only imagine the stress a 250cc four stroke engine would have in a World Championship Moto3 race distance. I really miss the 250GP bikes... Cry
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2010, 05:00:21 PM »

SPROING.

Although personally, I was hoping for a bit more displacement, but as long as the power is in the ballpark of 33 HP, I'm all for it.

My carb'd Ninja 250 (with a somewhat built motor, granted) put out 34 HP.  You're looking at a lot more than that for these bikes.  Imagine 50-60 hp in a MotoGP race frame with a 4 stroke powerband.   SPROING!!!

I really hope they don't run thumpers though.  Despite the weight savings, they'll just come to pieces on the racetrack. 
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2010, 05:24:43 PM »

250 single 4-stroke, unlimited tech?
IMO, somewhere between 40-50 HP, IE a bit less than 25% of a WSBK literbike.

But they'd be borderline grenades.
Same as if they're built-up 250 MX motors.
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2010, 05:41:47 PM »

Just brainstorming here, but mebbe they should make them ride with actual grenades underneath them?  Set to go off if you don't make a minimum time.  Or if you try to get off the bike and run away from it cuz you realize you're too slow.

That'd make the 125/Moto2 bump-n-grind look like tea-time.  It'd be awesome.
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2010, 04:12:37 AM »

Wonder if they will make them use spec 250 thumpers ala Moto2 motors? If so I wonder which company will land that contract. Whoever it is they will have a tough time cranking out enough power to make it interesting on the track and at the same time keeping them from grenading... speaking of grenades.
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2010, 04:06:06 AM »

WELL...I think it might be possible to make a motor for this work...something with a double connecting rod for balance like the old Supermono....
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« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2010, 03:47:29 AM »

Just brainstorming here, but mebbe they should make them ride with actual grenades underneath them?  Set to go off if you don't make a minimum time.  Or if you try to get off the bike and run away from it cuz you realize you're too slow.

That'd make the 125/Moto2 bump-n-grind look like tea-time.  It'd be awesome.

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