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timmyc
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« on: June 03, 2010, 10:01:03 PM »

Not sure of the etiquette surrounding asking questions like this, so let me know if it's kind of out of line.
Would anyone be able to tell me if this is a decent price for this bike, and what I would want to know about it if I was a potential buyer (which I might be)?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110538095555&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:AU:1123

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Tim
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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2010, 10:38:51 PM »

Hi Tim,

To give you a comparison I bought a 2006 Monster S2R 1000 July 09 (last year - stating the obvious probably) for $14500.  It had the full termis on like on this book, came with log book, been serviced, receipts for exhaust and other things (modded air box, DP ECU).  Most importantly it came with 3 keys, the two for riding and the other for maintenance.  Plus with the manuals there was the security card pin for the immobiliser.  The bike only had 4500km on it too.  Considering this is an 2008 bike if you picked it up for say $14500 I would think it would be a good buy (others may and will argue).  If the person was taking offers around the $12000 mark then it would be very good value.  As long as it has had its servicing then it should be ok.  If you wanted a proper mechanical appraisal either contact the shop where it was bought/serviced, or get some reputable bike shop to inspect it (that will cost you additional $$$).  The only other area of concern would be the noise of the exhaust.  When I took mine through identity check (roadworthy not needed in SA - yet) the inspector advised that I may get pulled over as the bike was a bit loud in his opinion.  My saving grace was that my bike came with original "udder" - catalytic converter.  If I got pulled over I would just put that back on (maybe stuffed with a bit of steel wool) to get it back through roadworthy inspection.

Other than that a beautiful engine, grunts happily away.  The dry clutch is great, and it pulls up very nicely!  [moto]

Hope this is of some help to you!  waytogo
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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2010, 10:49:21 PM »


Ask away

Hi was just on eBay my self looking for Monster stuff and was looking at that as well, not to buy but just drool.
A few S2r monsters on eBay at the moment.

To me looks very clean low klm and unmolested.
Ready for you to get your grubby hands on and go beserk with bling.

The price looks good from what i have seen over the past 12 months.
All you can really do is target a certain model you want and check bikesales.com and eBay and get an average  price for what s going at the time. key words, (whats for sale when you want to buy.)
as you will inevitably see some thing better a week after you buy something Undecided



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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2010, 11:09:34 PM »

Thanks a lot for your responses Smiley
The reason why I am slightly hesitant lies in the fact that I won't come off my restrictions until November. I'm unsure as to whether a good deal warrants an early buy, and if it is in fact a good deal.

Also, there is the big issue that I can't really test ride :/
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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2010, 11:23:39 PM »


Not what you would call a good deal but an average price.
12 Months ago 16k would have been the average.

For the bike, there would not likely be any mechanical issues, with those klm's. they are an awsome bike.

It is only if you are happy with the way it rides and not being able to test ride one  sucks.
 
But Hey i don't care how mine rides it's all in the Ducati Exhaust note music to my ears bow down drool.


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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2010, 11:30:47 PM »

If indeed the owner wants the top money at $14.5 then it's possibly not a top deal.
However if it goes for $12.5 then it might well be worth the money. I'm not sure how many good Monsters
there are out there for sale, I know Spider took quite some time to find his.
 
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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2010, 11:49:37 PM »

Personally, I think it's worthwhile to pay a little more to get one that's been looked after rather buy a cheaper one and then spend money to fit, paint or replace parts afterwards. Ultimately, as long as you're happy with the bike and its price, then that's all that matters. And, try to get all the original parts that were taken off the bike eg exhaust system and whatever else.
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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2010, 12:00:32 AM »

Personally, I think it's worthwhile to pay a little more to get one that's been looked after rather buy a cheaper one and then spend money to fit, paint or replace parts afterwards. Ultimately, as long as you're happy with the bike and its price, then that's all that matters. And, try to get all the original parts that were taken off the bike eg exhaust system and whatever else.

Are you implying that this one is a cheaper one that might cost more in the long run?
The guy said its been serviced twice, once in 2007 and again in 2009. I'm assuming it might be due for another soon. The rear tyre and brake pads have just been replaced for roadworthy, as well as the stock cans being put back on. He is also unsure whether it still has the stock ECU or not.

I'm not 100% sure if I care if it rides perfectly for me, because I have a craving for a Ducati, its looks and its sounds. I'm sure parts can be adjusted to suit the rider (eg. rearsets, clipons/risers, etc). But still, the inability to test ride is worrying lol. And the fact that I'm going to have to stare at it for months in the garage, only taking it out on occasion to keep it running...
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« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2010, 12:01:29 AM »

as you will inevitably see some thing better a week after you buy something Undecided

haha for that reason I stopped looking!! but I love my bike even though I took the risk of purchasing it outright without riding it or viewing it I do not regret it - I lucked out in a big way!  waytogo  I didnt ride it until two weeks later! cheeky

Timmy work out what you want first - my agenda was simple - 4 criteria
1. Ducati
2. Monster
3. Dry Clutch
4. Exhaust

I looked at 900, 1000, S4, S4R, S2R, but feel in love with S2R/S4R for the single sided swing arm! I spent a couple of months.  You can purchase now, or be patient and purchase when you are off your restrictions - there will always be Monsters around!!  laughingdp
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« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2010, 12:03:22 AM »

The guy said its been serviced twice, once in 2007 and again in 2009.

check whether the belts have been changed - they are meant to be changed every 2 years (or 4 depending on who you listen to for 2 valve) so that may be an immediate expense item...

cheers

 waytogo
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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2010, 12:13:35 AM »

Essentially, I think my criteria are the same as yours. And I have been looking at S2R's for the last 6+ months (why? because I enjoy procrastinating during times when I should be studying or writing essays). There has never been that many S2R1000's around when I look.

S4R's are probably out of my student budget however, and I've heard that they are quite a 'monster' of a bike so it might be a bit much coming from a 250.
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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2010, 12:48:00 AM »

Are you implying that this one is a cheaper one that might cost more in the long run?

Not at all. It was a general comment. If you've been looking for +6 months, you should have a fair idea of what to pay.

In relation to this bike on ebay, if it was purchased new in Sept 09, there's still another 15 months of factory warranty.

Also don't forget to do a REVs check to make sure there's outstanding finance on the bike you ultimately buy. I think REVs only covers a couple of states. The others have there own register of encumbered vehicles.

I bought my first monster 4 months before I got my full licence. I didn't do any test rides whatsoever. I knew that was what I wanted.  Grin
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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2010, 01:03:32 AM »

Not at all. It was a general comment. If you've been looking for +6 months, you should have a fair idea of what to pay.

In relation to this bike on ebay, if it was purchased new in Sept 09, there's still another 15 months of factory warranty.

Also don't forget to do a REVs check to make sure there's outstanding finance on the bike you ultimately buy. I think REVs only covers a couple of states. The others have there own register of encumbered vehicles.

I bought my first monster 4 months before I got my full licence. I didn't do any test rides whatsoever. I knew that was what I wanted.  Grin

I'm still unsure about prices are there aren't all that many monsters in comparison with other bikes. Also, this guy is the second owner. I questioned him about warranty and apparently it doesn't have any left.
Did you ride your bike before you got your full license? I'm not sure if I want to risk the points and possible loss of license cause it will put my career on hold lol.
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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2010, 01:10:19 AM »

S4R's are probably out of my student budget however, and I've heard that they are quite a 'monster' of a bike so it might be a bit much coming from a 250.

haha I am sure MattyVas and a few others will argue the point.  Main thing is buy a bike that you feel comfortable with - dont go confusing ambitions with capabilities!  I have ridden some recent Jap bikes and they scared the pants off me - just too easy to get in to the no no zone!  Whereas I love the rumble of the Ducati, the power delivery, engine braking (big fan of it), and the ease to ride.

Did you ride your bike before you got your full license? I'm not sure if I want to risk the points and possible loss of license cause it will put my career on hold lol.

I think you have answered your own question there - don't ride it until you are fully licensed too - not only will it be a possible loss of licence but I dare say a fine that may also put you in the unfortunate predicament of selling the bike!

Good Luck!  Dont hesitate to ask questions here - lots of folk far more knowledgeable than me.  I say the only dumb question is one not ask!!  [moto] waytogo waytogo
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« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2010, 01:21:18 AM »

Did you ride your bike before you got your full license? I'm not sure if I want to risk the points and possible loss of license cause it will put my career on hold lol.

No.

I think you have answered your own question there - don't ride it until you are fully licensed too - not only will it be a possible loss of licence but I dare say a fine that may also put you in the unfortunate predicament of selling the bike!

Well said Mr.S2R  waytogo

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