Good price?

[craigo]

Add says to "Call Mark or Julie" HMMM SUSPICIOUS. How many Mark and Julie Ducati owning couples can there be in this country?




Nah. I reckon it's hard to judge anything from the internetz. Nothing beats checking  it out in real life. but if I was after a s2r1000 right now, I'd check it out.



or you can buy my s2r800 for 14K and I'll check it out because I really want a 1000 because my shocks are sux.  OMG I CAN MAKE FONTSIZE 1!!!

[Betty]

Add says to "Call Mark or Julie" HMMM SUSPICIOUS. How many Mark and Julie Ducati owning couples can there be in this country?

Definitely sounds dodgy

Maybe we should contact them and say we will buy it using Paypal for more than they want, etc, etc ... and sign it of Mark & Julie (hehehe ... I just types Jukie)

[Spider]

have a wait mate, I'm sure I can arrange a test ride of a S2r for you.

No man is ever going to be able to keep a bike for six months without riding it, so it would be dangerous for your license to buy it despite your obvious maturity and resposible attitude!

[monstermick58]

Mate, I'll test ride it for you 






                                                            Mmick

[suzyj]

Ummm, is an s2r 1000 even suitable as a second bike?  Especially for someone just coming off their P's?

I did ~ five years on a 250 before upgrading to my 695, with heaps of commuting etc.  When bike shopping I had a test ride of a trumpy speed triple (1100cc), and had trouble keeping the front wheel on the ground.  I chose the 695 because it was a reasonable step up in performance from the 250.

[timmyc]

Ummm, is an s2r 1000 even suitable as a second bike?  Especially for someone just coming off their P's?

I did ~ five years on a 250 before upgrading to my 695, with heaps of commuting etc.  When bike shopping I had a test ride of a trumpy speed triple (1100cc), and had trouble keeping the front wheel on the ground.  I chose the 695 because it was a reasonable step up in performance from the 250.

I can't afford to take steps, really. I'd prefer to buy the bike that I actually want. I guess I'll gonna have to stop thinking about new bikes and just bide my time

[Mr.S2R]

Ummm, is an s2r 1000 even suitable as a second bike?  Especially for someone just coming off their P's?

any bike will get you in to trouble - I think it is more dangerous coming off P's and jumping on a modern 600 then a S2R1000.  It is all about power delivery and understanding your capabilities to control it.  As stated before I chose a S2R1000 as it suited my style of riding - have ridden a couple of recent 600's and just too easy to do naughty stuff.  At least with the Ducati - be it a 695 or 1000, a two or four valve - you get what I call sense of speed.  You listen to the motor and once you are familiar you can feel the 'sweet spot' and know your speed without looking too much at your speedo.

My advice Timmy is to wait a bit longer - like I said there will always be Monsters around - and a 695, 900, or 1000 will give you just as much fun! [moto]

[Serious Groper]

Ummm, is an s2r 1000 even suitable as a second bike?  Especially for someone just coming off their P's?

I did ~ five years on a 250 before upgrading to my 695, with heaps of commuting etc.  When bike shopping I had a test ride of a trumpy speed triple (1100cc), and had trouble keeping the front wheel on the ground.  I chose the 695 because it was a reasonable step up in performance from the 250.

A big bike is not an issue in the right hands. If you had problems keeping the front wheel on the ground of a speed triple (without meaning to do it) or in deed any big bike, it means you have not developed proper throttle control.

I did just fine getting onto a VTR1000 after 8yrs off a bike of which i might have done 1,000km riding prior to that. My wife went from an RS125 to a CBR1000 without any dramas. It comes down to natural co-ordination and ability, the same as anything athletically related. Some people have it, some don't. My 16yr old brother in law could hop on my S4R and ride it better on his first go than most owners can after years of ownership.

Hopefully the OP has natural ability lol!
The Ducati twins have a wicked snatchy throttle so throttle control is absolutely vital!!!

[suzyj]

A big bike is not an issue in the right hands. If you had problems keeping the front wheel on the ground of a speed triple (without meaning to do it) or in deed any big bike, it means you have not developed proper throttle control.

Well that's sort of my point.  250's don't teach throttle control, at all.  My old across was incredibly forgiving - you could just wind at the throttle all you liked.  My 695 is much more responsive to the throttle, but without being really hard, so has taught me lots.  Hence it being (IMHO of course) a perfect second bike.

Indeed my problem might have been too much familiarity with a high-revving, zero torque 250.  I hopped on a much torquier bike and found it too much of a handful.

[Dannog]

the best way to learn throttle control is by practice. I went from a 250 (for 2 months..... mature learner rider  ) to my M900ie. ditto comments from Mr.S2R's comments.

It was a bitter shock going to the S4RS than the V2. The V4 explodes when you twist the throttle just a fraction. With the V2 you know your twisting it at least.

There's nothing like launching the front wheel of the ground unexpectedly to learn what not to do next time





Craigo, gotta lov that small font! a very generous offer if you ask me

[Serious Groper]

Indeed my problem might have been too much familiarity with a high-revving, zero torque 250.  I hopped on a much torquier bike and found it too much of a handful.

Maybe. Many L's and P's do the same thing and a few young blokes in the office have told me about the front wheel coming up on their first ride of a big bike. Probably more adrenaline than anything? Never happened to me though. If you can ride slow in traffic, you can ride slow on any bike no matter the size because you treat the throttle with the same respect IMO [moto] 

Dannog - Agree. The S4R is the snatchiest throttled bike i've ever ridden. If ever there is a bike to get the front wheel up in a blink of an eye it's this one!

[Betty]

It is an interesting debate and I think everybody has valid points ... just slightly varying perspectives. From what I have seen (but I don't specifically go looking at these things) the cost of S2R 1000s are finally starting to come down a little - so its not all bad if you put yourself in a holding pattern.

Its not just a coordination thing or experience or bravado ... it is a combination of things. But I think the biggest influence of whether you are 'asking for it' though is common sense ... or a different way of looking at it - FEAR. If you are concerned about going too fast, braking too late, dropping your new baby, etc, etc ... you are less likely to put yourself in a situation to bring you unstuck.

As for me: my Monster was my first bike ... although I had ridden the Boss' bikes beforehand. I also considered the Speed Triple (but they hadn't actually arrived in the country at the time). Looking at the figures (power, engine capacity, etc) I decided it was more than likely too much bike for me and what I intended to use it for. My little 800 is a great bike for the street (I reckon) and I actually find it more forgiving than Jukie's 620 despite it (apparently) having a little more power - the gearing is different, has an extra gear, the APTC (clutch) and it doesn't have shorty open pipes.

When I rode the 1100 it didn't actually feel that different (although getting to 200 was probably a bit easier ... hey when in Rome ) but I have always attributed this to my laid back riding style. The 4V motor on the otherhand is a different thing entirely ... but that wasn't the topic of discussion until testosterone took over

[Mr.S2R]

Its not just a coordination thing or experience or bravado ... it is a combination of things. But I think the biggest influence of whether you are 'asking for it' though is common sense ... or a different way of looking at it - FEAR.

haha I remember a bumper sticker on the back of an alleged 'street' HK Monaro (you know the type, big wheels, shiny paint job, engine louder than a methanol drag car) and it said "If you have NO FEAR - you're not going fast enough!"  It was a payout of the NO FEAR stickers at the time...

back to Betty's and everyone else's it is all about attitude, and how you handle yourself.  If you can keep your head, ride to your style, not Valentino wannabe on the R1 next to you, any bike can be the right bike for you.  Another basic rule I live by is make sure you can lift the bike up if it is on its' side - hopefully that never happens to you.

Betty the 800S2R  is a good choice for first bike - I looked at those with very careful consideration, nearly purchased from Melbourne before losing my head a little and getting an S2R1000.

Oh and TimmyC my riding experience thus far, in order: Honda CM185 (learner), Ducati Pantah 500, Yamaha RZ350, Ducati Pantah 650, then finally my Monster S2R1000.  This is over (cough) a span of 15 years.  Oh almost forgot my latest purchase - a Honda CB 125N!!  [moto]

Good luck with your future purchase! 

[timmyc]

Well, with any luck I'll at least be posting pics in 6 months time of some kind of monster 

[Mr.S2R]

looking forward to seeing it TimmyC - you never know you might even get a second hand Monster 1100 at that price......