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« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2010, 06:29:08 AM »

Web, make sure you understand that it is 136 ft/lbs, do not, I repeat do not try to crank it to 186!

Also make sure you do not over tighten your basket bolts or they can snap.

Roger that.  What's the ft/lbs on those bolts?  I'm under the impression they're 35Nm (26ft/lbs)?
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« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2010, 06:39:33 AM »

I don't remember exactly what it is, or if it varies much by model, but I remember mine as being right around 20 ft/lbs on the 1098, so the 25 is probably right (it should stay the same as oem torque specs).
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« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2010, 07:42:29 AM »

Roger that.  What's the ft/lbs on those bolts?  I'm under the impression they're 35Nm (26ft/lbs)?

I didn't check the 1100 shop manual, but most Ducati models are 38Nm. You can download the install instructions for the EVR slipper clutch here: http://www.mota-lab.com/downloads/EVR230-INSTRUCTIONS.pdf
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« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2010, 01:17:00 PM »

I didn't check the 1100 shop manual, but most Ducati models are 38Nm. You can download the install instructions for the EVR slipper clutch here: http://www.mota-lab.com/downloads/EVR230-INSTRUCTIONS.pdf

I was about to say "I've got those already..." but then I read this file and it's much more specific to my application (not exactly but much closer) so thanks!  chug
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« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2010, 02:48:24 PM »

I was about to say "I've got those already..." but then I read this file and it's much more specific to my application (not exactly but much closer) so thanks!  chug

Yeah I took the original instructions and improved them. Also added some more parts to the diagram as we send them out with new basket bolts, o-ring, both size input shaft nuts, springs, spring retainer bolts, etc...
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« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2010, 05:59:56 PM »

Alrighty, so this weekend my project is installing this EVR slipper... work has gotten in the way of doing it any sooner, sadly.  But I feel good about knocking it out this weekend!!

The Next "big" project for me is buying/installing this baby:


But I have no idea how to even begin.  I've looked through the tutorials and learned how to adjust the chain tension and getting the bolts torqued down.  But does anyone have any step by step how-to on getting the stock sprocket off and installing this one?  And what kind of tools are going to be necessary?
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« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2010, 07:30:42 PM »

hardest part of that is sourcing the 41mm (iirc), socket.  Check out speedymoto to see if they have the 41/46mm wheel socket instock.
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« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2010, 09:19:01 PM »

.....But does anyone have any step by step how-to on getting the stock sprocket off and installing this one?  And what kind of tools are going to be necessary?
I found a M1100 Workshop Manual on ebay.... maybe have a search around there....

Check out speedymoto to see if they have the 41/46mm wheel socket instock.
+1 on the Speedymoto wheel nut tool..... Also getting those things off is much easier if you have some kind of rattlegun, I just use an inexpensive electric item bought from my local hardware store.  156Nm on the 41mm sprocket side and 176Nm on the 46mm RHS.

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« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2010, 12:24:50 AM »

Northern Tool and Equipment is where I got my 46mm. They have cheap rattle guns as well assuming you got the air.
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« Reply #39 on: June 15, 2010, 09:59:15 AM »

I found a M1100 Workshop Manual on ebay.... maybe have a search around there....

I've been looking on eBay and everywhere else and really can't find one for the 1100... it's quite strange.  If anyone sees one floating out there let me know!
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« Reply #40 on: June 18, 2010, 01:45:57 PM »

Anyone who knows anything about removing the clutch hub from the 1100 let me know.  I've got the center hub off, but the main hub is still on there and it just won't budge.  Everyone says it's supposed to slide right off, but needless to say it didnt and it just ain't budging. 

Here's a pic of where I am currently (and have been for 4 hours now with no change)
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« Reply #41 on: June 18, 2010, 04:08:50 PM »

Okay... much further along now... already at the next problem that has me in a holding pattern now until Monday...

The shaft is larger than the standard M20 size... I hope/expect it'll be the M25 and I'm getting one sent to me and should be here Monday so we'll know then.

Here are pictures of the EVR nut (left) and the stock nut (right):



I tried just putting the stock nut on it, but it's too tall and presses against the EVR pressure plate.  So now I just wait...  Sad
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« Reply #42 on: June 18, 2010, 04:22:49 PM »

Cheer up, I dropped a few random cool stickers, and a rare Italian artifact in the box with your larger nut/washer Smiley
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« Reply #43 on: June 18, 2010, 04:48:07 PM »

Cheer up, I dropped a few random cool stickers, and a rare Italian artifact in the box with your larger nut/washer Smiley

You know how to create silver linings!  Thanks for all your help on this!  chug chug chug
Keep getting in all the cool stuff and I'll keep sending my paychecks your way  Grin


On another note, I just discovered something about that stock nut::  If you turn it upside down (put the bolt head towards the hub) the other end is pretty much exactly the same size as the pressure plate bearing.... and with the bearing installed in the pressure plate, there is a 1/8"-1/4" gap between the bearing and the nut... meaning it COULD work...  Worth the risk?  Not quite sure now that the proper stuff is being sent my way.  But the tinkerer inside of me is damn curious.


Image of the stock nut upside-down and fully inside of the pressure plate like something naughty.
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« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2010, 08:02:56 PM »

Image of the stock nut upside-down and fully inside of the pressure plate like something naughty.

I would have to say do not chance it. Last thing you want to do is gouge up the inside of your pressure plate and have to wait even longer to finally ride your bike!
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