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Re: WASP Powerup kit for 696/1100 released Details and pics inside!! *dyno charts!
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June 16, 2010, 05:56:10 PM »
Has any one done this mod on a stock 696 ECU ?
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Re: WASP Powerup kit for 696/1100 released Details and pics inside!! *dyno chart
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June 16, 2010, 05:58:45 PM »
Quote from: supertjeduc on June 16, 2010, 02:30:24 PM
I just don't believe that this can bring 10 hp
You beter buy some hot cams and a rapid bike or power commander
I have pod filters on my old 900 ie with dyno's before and after
And the difference was about 0.5 hp
Pod filters, with stacks or just pods on the stock throttle bodies?
2nd, 900s had very poor flowing heads (ask any of the tuners, they'll second this) The 1000 and 1100 heads have much better flow rates, and see much more improvement from intake/exhaust modifications comparatively. People see huge gains with a port/polish on 900 motors, and yet more still when using filters/stacks instead of the airbox (although the biggest gains are filters on FCR41s, with a port job too).
I'm not saying 10 hp is what people will see, but it's more possible than on a 900.
3rd, a PC is included when you purchase the WASP kit, so you're getting something almost properly tuned (it won't be spot on, elevation, fuel changes alter it abit).
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only a handful have done this ever so far, it's a new kit, not even publicly released yet
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Re: WASP Powerup kit for 696/1100 released Details and pics inside!! *dyno charts!
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Quote from: WinSomeLoseNone on June 16, 2010, 03:21:25 PM
if the 696 has a proven 6HP gain why is a 10HP gain not possible on a larger motor. I consider it very possible. I would expect somewhere between an 8-12 hp gain on an 1100.
We will see tomorrow.
I will join Todd in the morning to fit a Wasp M1100 PUK in Bunbury for the installation photos.
The bike is a bog stock M1100 with std exhaust and ECU.
Before anyone cries B/S about the availability of M1100 PC5...
It is not available yet
- We are working on an O2 work around with DynoJet while it is on the dyno tomorrow.
We will be doing before and after dyno runs obviously and you will see the results tomorrow eve or Sat morning.
Greg
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June 17, 2010, 12:30:19 AM »
Quote from: mattc7 on June 16, 2010, 05:58:45 PM
Pod filters, with stacks or just pods on the stock throttle bodies?
2nd, 900s had very poor flowing heads (ask any of the tuners, they'll second this) The 1000 and 1100 heads have much better flow rates, and see much more improvement from intake/exhaust modifications comparatively. People see huge gains with a port/polish on 900 motors, and yet more still when using filters/stacks instead of the airbox (although the biggest gains are filters on FCR41s, with a port job too).
I'm not saying 10 hp is what people will see, but it's more possible than on a 900.
3rd, a PC is included when you purchase the WASP kit, so you're getting something almost properly tuned (it won't be spot on, elevation, fuel changes alter it abit).
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only a handful have done this ever so far, it's a new kit, not even publicly released yet
The very soon to be released M696 and M1100 are new, however the Wasp power Up Kits for DS1000's have actually been available for more than twelve months with hundreds of units in operation around the world.
The kits were initially designed for the Sport Classic DS1000 engines and more recently the Hypermotard DS1100.
We (myself and Todd at Bunbury dyno) have installed around 8 or 10 kits for local customers and have documented increases in HP of between min 6hp to max 12hp.
I have not ventured onto this forum before as until now the Monsters have been only on our distant radar.
Having said that, I do offer a kit for the S2R (DS1000) monster.
We have actually been extremely busy of late working on intake and induction kits for 1098/1198 Superbikes and Streetfighters with some quite impressive results, but that's another story on another forum.
Greg.
www.waspworks.com
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Re: WASP Powerup kit for 696/1100 released Details and pics inside!! *dyno charts!
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June 17, 2010, 01:13:09 AM »
Thank you for the welcome.
I am happy to answer all logical and relevant questions but I must tread lightly until I can contact the administration of this forum and discuss becoming a vendor.
I am not interested in entering into shit fights and will only present the (dyno proven) facts.
I am happy to talk (via pm or e-mail through representatives) about group buy discounts but will not expend too much energy justifying costs to people who jump on threads and slam products before they even know full details..
If people think they can do something better or cheaper,,, Great - DO IT and stop talking about it...
I look forward to being a part of this community for a long time as I have been (and will continue to be) part of the Sport Classic community.
No worries about the prompt e-mail reply.. I always try to bowl over all e-mail enquiry's quickly as they gather up (very fast) if I do not.
Having said that, e-mail is by far the quickest and most guarenteed way of contacting me.
Greg
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June 17, 2010, 02:12:40 AM »
god i hope he wasnt talking about me on the shit talking.
i just would like to see the results with some higher wind speeds than 62mph.
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June 17, 2010, 03:18:20 AM »
Quote from: mattc7 on June 16, 2010, 05:58:45 PM
Pod filters, with stacks or just pods on the stock throttle bodies?
2nd, 900s had very poor flowing heads (ask any of the tuners, they'll second this) The 1000 and 1100 heads have much better flow rates, and see much more improvement from intake/exhaust modifications comparatively. People see huge gains with a port/polish on 900 motors, and yet more still when using filters/stacks instead of the airbox (although the biggest gains are filters on FCR41s, with a port job too).
I'm not saying 10 hp is what people will see, but it's more possible than on a 900.
3rd, a PC is included when you purchase the WASP kit, so you're getting something almost properly tuned (it won't be spot on, elevation, fuel changes alter it abit).
@link
only a handful have done this ever so far, it's a new kit, not even publicly released yet
The heads where done before i switched from airbox to Pod's , my 900 has about 86 hp rearwheel
I hope every thing will work out fine with the Wasp kit , but get a before and after dyno , without numbers you don't know a thing
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Re: WASP Powerup kit for 696/1100 released Details and pics inside!! *dyno charts!
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June 17, 2010, 10:44:33 AM »
Welcome Wasp!!
Thanks for jumping in to clarify any doubts with your kits.
I look forward to seeing the before and after results for the 1100 kit.
As you know the US economy is crap and we're all poor so some sort of group discount would be pretty amazing.
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Re: WASP Powerup kit for 696/1100 released Details and pics inside!! *dyno charts!
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June 17, 2010, 04:14:59 PM »
Quote from: Wasp on June 17, 2010, 01:13:09 AM
Thank you for the welcome.
I am happy to answer all logical and relevant questions but I must tread lightly until I can contact the administration of this forum and discuss becoming a vendor.
Yes welcome to the board
Just one logical question, have you tried this with a stock ecu on a 696 ? From the posts here and other forums I think there is a much larger market for your kit's as many more guys & gals have stock ecu with slip-ons
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June 17, 2010, 06:02:16 PM »
Greg, you mentioned that you are testing an 1100 with a stock ecu and stock exhaust with your kit. Is it safe to assume that your kit would also work on a bike with a full exhaust and stock ECU?
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Re: WASP Powerup kit for 696/1100 released Details and pics inside!! *dyno charts!
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Quote from: Raux on June 17, 2010, 02:12:40 AM
god i hope he wasnt talking about me on the shit talking.
i just would like to see the results with some higher wind speeds than 62mph.
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Re: WASP Powerup kit for 696/1100 released Details and pics inside!! *dyno charts!
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June 20, 2010, 07:49:54 AM »
so this completely replaces the airbox? any pics of how it looks? im confused on how the ecu fits in there, maybe i need to read through it again.
also, will it work with a dp ecu?
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Quote from: DucatiTorrey on June 20, 2010, 07:49:54 AM
so this completely replaces the airbox? any pics of how it looks? im confused on how the ecu fits in there, maybe i need to read through it again.
also, will it work with a dp ecu?
Look at the first page for pics of the stock 696 airbox and the with the wasp kit installed.
Remove the 696 tank covers and tank to understand where everything mounts. On a 696 the "tank" is really the intake and airbox. In reality you are sitting on majority of the gas because the actual tank is underneath the seat.
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June 20, 2010, 11:22:08 AM »
Quote from: WinSomeLoseNone on June 20, 2010, 08:42:15 AM
Look at the first page for pics of the stock 696 airbox and the with the wasp kit installed.
Remove the 696 tank covers and tank to understand where everything mounts. On a 696 the "tank" is really the intake and airbox. In reality you are sitting on majority of the gas because the actual tank is underneath the seat.
yeah i knew that, just wondering about the airbox, and what this all is. Ive seen older monsters with the airbox removed, is that was this is doing? what about the ram air on the tank? nothing now?
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ok just looke again, that is crazy. any pics of the completed bike? what is this like $1000? 1200 or something?
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