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WASP Powerup kit for 696/1100 released Details and pics inside!! *dyno charts!
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MadDaddy
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Re: WASP Powerup kit for 696/1100 released Details and pics inside!! *dyno charts!
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Reply #105 on:
November 10, 2010, 04:08:13 PM »
So have any of these kits made it stateside yet? Their website constantly says "sold out".
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2009 M696, 14T front sprocket, M1100 bars and riser, DP bar ends, CRG levers, R&G tail tidy, Exan carbon fiber exhaust cans, DP low profile seat, 12v port for charger and TomTom, Motovation frame sliders, axle sliders and fork sliders. LH Euro air shroud with charcoal canister removed. GIPro gear indicator. Rizoma rearsets.
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November 10, 2010, 06:30:04 PM »
Quote from: MadDaddy on November 10, 2010, 04:08:13 PM
So have any of these kits made it stateside yet? Their website constantly says "sold out".
No idea, the company sort of dropped off the face of the earth now..
Probably too much demand for a small business to handle.
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Ahks
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Re: WASP Powerup kit for 696/1100 released Details and pics inside!! *dyno charts!
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November 10, 2010, 08:21:15 PM »
I did the contact form via their site a few weeks back and the reply I got implied they were fairly close to "reopening". Corporate legalities etc. I think Greg also implied that the manufaturing stuff was still all in place but that they didnt have a test bike at present to assure a proper tune.
I do hope they have have their shit sorted by the time I'm ready to purchase. Tho I'll likely be going the tuning route that Ung took with the PC.V dual O2 sensor autotune + Rexxer bit... I REALLY REALLY wish their was a tuning option for Ducatis that works like the TTS Mastertune unit available for Harleys. Hell that product alone is easily half of why Harley isn't utterly ruled out for my purchase in the spring.
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mattc7
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Re: WASP Powerup kit for 696/1100 released Details and pics inside!! *dyno charts!
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November 10, 2010, 10:43:03 PM »
Hi Matt.
Wow, talk about underestimating the time required to set the business up.
In all fareness we have been extremely busy with other work and this has taken the slow road.
We are just finalizing the insurance details now and I hope we will be ready in the coming weeks.
We will post on the forums as soon as we approach a shipping date.
Hang in there.
Regards,
got reply from wasp today..
at least they're still there. hopefully soon. Although, it looks like a race between when TPO comes out, and when wasp does.
I like the wasp product more, but time frame and price are considerations
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November 11, 2010, 04:21:39 AM »
9 months or a year ago looked like the sweet spot for the exchange rates... Nobody wants our green toilet paper any more :p
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Chucko9-696
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January 08, 2011, 09:16:36 AM »
Im tired of waiting on these guys! I thought by now id have a wasp kit on my bike by now. does another company make pod filters for the 696 i searched here and googled it w/ no results!
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mattc7
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Re: WASP Powerup kit for 696/1100 released Details and pics inside!! *dyno charts!
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January 08, 2011, 12:42:08 PM »
Quote from: Chucko9-696 on January 08, 2011, 09:16:36 AM
Im tired of waiting on these guys! I thought by now id have a wasp kit on my bike by now. does another company make pod filters for the 696 i searched here and googled it w/ no results!
Nothing bolt on.
TPO beast kits will require custom brackets. They had said that before 2011 they've have a kit out. Looks like they had to delay
Duc Shop's hyper stacks are the other option. Still need to build custom brackets to hit it.
Neither of these are PCV inclusive, so mapping is required
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Chucko9-696
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January 08, 2011, 12:59:15 PM »
Thanks Matt I have the DP ecu, not too worried about the PCv. I saw the BEAST kit that would work ill get in touch w/ them and see if they have something coming out.
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mattc7
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January 08, 2011, 01:06:47 PM »
dp ecu for the siemens bikes isn't going to be tuneable. Pod filters drastically change airflow.
kind of a waste to do the pods and not tune it properly, probably even lose power and rideability
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Chucko9-696
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January 08, 2011, 02:10:01 PM »
looks like the PCv is in order then. I sent TPO an email, see what they say
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Chucko9-696
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January 09, 2011, 02:58:46 PM »
For anyone intrested the TPO BEAST kit will work on the new monsters. TPO is working on the brackets necessary for everything that is attached to the airbox. Allan at TPO told me the beast kit would work if i wanted one now id have to make the brackets myself. Ill wait and see what they come out with.
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DucatiTorrey
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Re: WASP Powerup kit for 696/1100 released Details and pics inside!! *dyno charts!
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January 28, 2011, 04:19:00 PM »
Quote from: Chucko9-696 on January 09, 2011, 02:58:46 PM
For anyone intrested the TPO BEAST kit will work on the new monsters. TPO is working on the brackets necessary for everything that is attached to the airbox. Allan at TPO told me the beast kit would work if i wanted one now id have to make the brackets myself. Ill wait and see what they come out with.
so why wont this kit work with a DP ECU?
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Re: WASP Powerup kit for 696/1100 released Details and pics inside!! *dyno charts!
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January 29, 2011, 12:15:18 AM »
Quote from: DucatiTorrey on January 28, 2011, 04:19:00 PM
so why wont this kit work with a DP ECU?
it would, you would just need to get the PC V tuned for the DP map
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Re: WASP Powerup kit for 696/1100 released Details and pics inside!! *dyno charts!
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January 29, 2011, 08:59:40 AM »
Quote from: Raux on January 29, 2011, 12:15:18 AM
it would, you would just need to get the PC V tuned for the DP map
just received an email from TPO this morning, should be ready in a few weeks for the new monsters. DP ECU works, but he doesn't recommend it if you dont already have it.
anyways here is what he said.
"Yes, it will be available soon. We have all the design work done, we are working out the final production details so we can offer you these kits at a reasonable price. The new model Monsters 696. 796, and 1100 require a lot more complex brackets than the previous generation of Monsters did. We're getting those made up and the kits should be available in a couple of weeks.
I have added your Email address to my waiting list. I will Email you the moment the kits are ready.
yes, the kits will work with the DP ECU, though the DP ECU is not required. I generally recommend a 3rd-party tuning device such as the Power Commander as they are much more cost effective than the DP ECU. There's nothing wrong with the DP unit per se, it's simply very costly!
Allan
www.tpoparts.com
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Re: WASP Powerup kit for 696/1100 released Details and pics inside!! *dyno charts!
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Reply #119 on:
January 29, 2011, 09:12:56 AM »
unless you got the route of the Rexxer or the like, the biggest advantage of the DP ECU is a more agressive base mapping with higher RPM limits.
Add the TPO kit with a PC V to deal with the extra fuel need for the extra air you'll be getting and you're golden
even if you don't get the DP Map (via the Rexxer) or ECU then you still need a PC V to deal with the extra air.
the final way would be to get a custom Map via a Rexxer or the like that deals with the TPO filters. but you would need a dyno for that.
with the PC V, TPO should provide either a base ECU map or DP ECU map for the PC V
lots of variables really
set a budget than work the best solution within that
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