Ducati Monster Forum

powered by:

January 06, 2025, 02:35:29 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: Welcome to the DMF
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register  



Pages: 1 ... 4 5 [6]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Monster 696 clip-ons Woodcraft, install details w/ lots of pics!  (Read 53273 times)
User24
New Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 10


« Reply #75 on: February 05, 2015, 03:41:13 PM »

The vibration is not an issue cruising at 45 mph. At 60 - 70 mph there's no getting around it whether 5th or 6th gear.

The Motovation Universal Fit Bar End Weights/Sliders arrived, ordered in Size A as I was pretty sure... But they were too small for the Woodcraft bars. Measured the internal diameter of the bars, approximately 18mm so I will have to size up to Size B. Will try again.
Logged
User24
New Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 10


« Reply #76 on: February 08, 2015, 02:07:13 PM »

Using the Woodcraft 50mm clipon, it's the Motovation Size B bar end that fit. This bar end is compatible with the Rizoma mirror and the CRG, due to the accent rings that can be installed to increase the diameter.



There are two orings. It fits with the outer oring removed, using the inner oring only.
Logged
User24
New Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 10


« Reply #77 on: February 22, 2015, 01:22:05 PM »

After riding in the dark last week, I finally realized what the headlight issue was.

The beam on my 696 had always pointed somewhat low, and after the clipon install it was even worse. Pointed about 6 feet onto the ground in front.

Fortunately I was able to use the factory vertical adjustment bolt, 8mm behind the right side of the headlight. Turned it clockwise until the light pattern was pointing sufficiently high enough to ride in the dark.
Logged
User24
New Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 10


« Reply #78 on: February 28, 2015, 08:56:47 AM »

Ordered and installed the lowest Woodcraft riser, 1''. This size was asymmetric, but labeled on the reverse side for right and left:



I decided not to worry about the display height--other bikes that came with factory clip-ons often had prominent gauge clusters anyway. Aesthetically, it was well worth it to have the top triple actually appearing above the handlebar clamp/riser:



The clutch and brake reservoir lines needed to be loosened enough to rotate them, otherwise kinking would occur:





Once adjusted, roughly 1/2'' of clearance from levers to the front turn signals:




Notes:

1. I kept the steering stops the same as the 3'' setup. 1'' riser and 3'' had similar tank clearance, but that was not the main issue. I ran out of hand clearance well before the controls would hit the tank cover. Using a gloved hand, I adjusted the handlebar angle based on hand clearance at full lock. I could have gone 1/2 inch more aggressive sweep, but would have risked being unable to make tight turns in parking lots due to my hand getting pinched.

2. 1'' riser was the lowest possible size while still keeping the stock front turn signals. With small hands, my levers were always rotated upward more than most people would have though. No-rise would've probably needed smaller front turn signals.

3. Hoses on the left side barely cleared the headlight housing. The right side hoses had plenty of room though. I would imagine no-rise bars could start to run into headlight modifications, but am not 100% sure as I've never tried.

4. There were unwanted resonances though with the lighter riser compared to the tall 3'' riser.

5. Extreme handlebar angles that mimicked sad dog ears, would have only been possible on vintage bikes with skinny tanks.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2015, 08:09:18 PM by User24 » Logged
User24
New Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 10


« Reply #79 on: June 21, 2015, 06:37:32 AM »

There are continuing questions, here are the answers:

Newest generation 696 Monsters need the reservoir spacers, and this photo demonstrates why. If you do not create that gap, there is a problem with the reservoirs contacting the clip-on mount.



Also, the horizontal angle of the coffin reservoirs is fixed. Note the angle of the clutch reservoir when parked. It seems to be at risk of developing an air bubble in the line, due to the side tap of the reservoir.



Note a Monster with remote clutch reservoir and clip-ons. There is some adjustability to re-level by rotating the various brackets. And in any case, the bottom location of the reservoir tap makes this a non-issue.

Logged
User24
New Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 10


« Reply #80 on: July 05, 2015, 12:17:01 PM »

With clip-ons, this is how the fluid level sits in the clutch reservoir. I removed some fluid, to emphasize the slope:




There is not as much leeway compared to stock, especially when leaning over in left turns.

Remember that the sight glass is the minimum level. The maximum fill level is actually the seam of the lid, and sadly with clip-ons the fluid will never actually be at maximum volume.

I use a rear stand in order to fill the reservoir to a higher level. Then, I install the membrane and lid before removing the stand.

The fluid weeps out naturally while parked, but stays at a higher level than if I hadn't used the stand.

Maybe I am overly cautious, but you get the idea. Loss of clutch fluid is much harder to tell compared to transparent reservoirs.

The shape of the membrane is a deep V shape, not a collapsing/auto extending membrane from what I can tell. I wish I could see exactly how the fluid sits with the membrane installed, but that is not possible.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2015, 12:48:45 PM by User24 » Logged
Raux
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 477


Re:
« Reply #81 on: July 05, 2015, 06:07:56 PM »

Find some masters that arent coffins
Logged
Howie
Post Whore
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 17296



« Reply #82 on: July 05, 2015, 09:55:25 PM »

There needs to be some space for expansion.  Unless there are leaks fluid level will rise with clutch wear.  Also, the diaphragm does fold back like on a car.  They should also not weep.  Check the condition of the diaphragms and flatness of the covers.  I don't know what the angle is on your clip-ons, but the coffins worked fine on my Cycle Cats.
Logged
Pages: 1 ... 4 5 [6]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  


Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines
Simple Audio Video Embedder
Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
SimplePortal 2.1.1