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[bikepilot]

I'm not sure that the idea of removing the front fender to fit a wide tire to improve rain riding charcteristics was terriably well considered    Looks like a tidy sporty though.

[Artful]

I'm not sure that the idea of removing the front fender to fit a wide tire to improve rain riding charcteristics was terriably well considered

RIGHT?!?!?!!?!

[Slide Panda]

Is she selling it to replace with another bike, or to replace with $?

Not sure what the disposition of the plan is currently. She makes eyes at the GT1000 sport classics.

I'm not sure that the idea of removing the front fender to fit a wide tire to improve rain riding charcteristics was terriably well considered    Looks like a tidy sporty though.

The tire was bought at the recommendation of someone else. It's the narrowest front they have, but still too wide to fit the fender w/o rubbing.. so off it came.

[ducatiz]

I'm not sure that the idea of removing the front fender to fit a wide tire to improve rain riding charcteristics was terriably well considered    Looks like a tidy sporty though.

I don't see how a wider tire would help in rain

Wider tire = less weight per cm^2.  You spread the weight around and the tire is more likely to float above the water (i.e. hydroplaning) and that's really bad.

You want MORE weight per cm^2, which you can do by either being fatter or by having a thinner tire, not wider.

[Slide Panda]

I think the language used was a bit ambiguous or confusing. The size doesn't matter - but the tires do. The bike had the HD stockers on before the Avons and had only a little more traction on wet than it did ice. the HD tires are awful.

 Those Avons do much better in the wet and have a more sporty profile.

[ducatiz]

I think the language used was a bit ambiguous or confusing. The size doesn't matter - but the tires do. The bike had the HD stockers on before the Avons and had only a little more traction on wet than it did ice. the HD tires are awful.

 Those Avons do much better in the wet and have a more sporty profile.

i hear all that.  avons in general have a good wet rep, but if you put a wider tire on, then you are reducing the per sq cm weight, which will negate any tread advantages in wet.

[Artful]

One day I want to be referred to as having a "good wet rep".

Good wider tires are better than crap narrower tires.

[Slide Panda]

I wasn't part of the tire process at all... Don't blame the messenger.

[ducatiz]

One day I want to be referred to as having a "good wet rep".

Good wider tires are better than crap narrower tires.

Too general of a statement to even comment on.

I had a friend who kept complaining about his new bike's tires.  They're so squirrely and slippery.  of course, the tires weren't broken in at all and still had the showroom gloss on them. 

I understand people ride by feel a lot, but I seriously doubt the tires got a fair test.  It's entirely possible that riding with the wider tire in wet was better because the rider slowed down due to the spray in the face with the mudguard missing.

[Artful]

I wasn't part of the tire process at all... Don't blame the messenger.

We still blame you.

[Slide Panda]

We still blame you.

Hush up Furry

[ducatiz]

Hush up Furry

  I just finished reading that thread 

[bikepilot]

Just giving ya a hard time.  I'm sure the avon sticks a lot better than the oem tire, wider or not.  All else equal wider usually isn't better, but it certainly can be (e.g., a 3.5" x17 racing wet will stick a heck of a lot better than any road tire in the wet, regardless of width).  The other issue is taking the fender off to improve rain performance, have you ever tried to ride in the rain without a fender?  Water sprays straight up and onto your face in my experience with bicycles, I think it'd be just as much an issue on a moto.

[zooom]

here's a must have!!!!

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/mcy/2593638747.html

[DRKWNG]

She makes eyes at the GT1000 sport classics.

Make sure and tell her that the Sport1000 is the better one to have.  I know where one is too.