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Re: The Corkscrew, by Stoner
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Quote from: Triple J on July 22, 2010, 10:59:42 AM
I can't remember what I focus on at Miller...but I know it is something.
i hope you remember when you go back.
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The trees at the base are used as reference pts.
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BTW, there's google streetview of the track if anyone wants to play around.
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Re: The Corkscrew, by Stoner
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Quote from: Paper5tr3et7 on July 22, 2010, 10:07:37 AM
There is a ton of bad $H!t you can rag on stoner for, slow isn't one of them
That's not what she said!
geez it was just a joke
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Quote from: SacDuc on July 22, 2010, 09:28:15 AM
Look at the seventh, eighth and ninth Stoners from the right. He is already crossed up and yanking that bike over. That just impresses me. I would bet for most rider's (say almost anything below professional) the bike's centrifugal force has already brought the bike up before the rider can even assist. But look at Stoner get on pulling the bike over for the next turn that early. Very cool sequence of photographs.
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If you look at the wheels you can see how far he's pushing the bike to countersteer. With the wheels at those angles one of two things are gonna happen, Either the bike changes direction reaaally quickly, or your ass gets thrown into the stratosphere.
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Rossi's line is more impressive. best race at laguna seca. hands down.
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Quote from: SacDuc on July 22, 2010, 09:28:15 AM
Look at the seventh, eighth and ninth Stoners from the right. He is already crossed up and yanking that bike over. That just impresses me. I would bet for most rider's (say almost anything below professional) the bike's centrifugal force has already brought the bike up before the rider can even assist. But look at Stoner get on pulling the bike over for the next turn that early. Very cool sequence of photographs.
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Good observation sac. Yeah, he's a step ahead for his next move. You've got better eyes than me!
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Quote from: SacDuc on July 22, 2010, 09:28:15 AM
Look at the seventh, eighth and ninth Stoners from the right. He is already crossed up and yanking that bike over. That just impresses me. I would bet for most rider's (say almost anything below professional) the bike's centrifugal force has already brought the bike up before the rider can even assist. But look at Stoner get on pulling the bike over for the next turn that early. Very cool sequence of photographs.
sac
Must be nice to have such great vision !
I know what you're talking about but I still can't see it no matter how hard I stare at it .
Perhaps you are just instinctively astute.
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Quote from: SacDuc on July 22, 2010, 09:28:15 AM
Look at the seventh, eighth and ninth Stoners from the right. He is already crossed up and yanking that bike over. That just impresses me. I would bet for most rider's (say almost anything below professional) the bike's centrifugal force has already brought the bike up before the rider can even assist. But look at Stoner get on pulling the bike over for the next turn that early. Very cool sequence of photographs.
sac
Ah, now I see it !
I can feel myself fighting the forces of gravity and gyroscope in raising the bike from down low , up and ready to move into position for the opposite lean.
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Quote from: He Man on July 22, 2010, 12:44:45 PM
Rossi's line is more impressive. best race at laguna seca. hands down.
Was that really a fair pass ?
In all fairness ? Aren't you suppose to stay ON the track ?
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Quote from: DoubleEagle on July 22, 2010, 03:52:21 PM
Was that really a fair pass ?
In all fairness ? Aren't you suppose to stay ON the track ?
Dolph
you should probably go back and watch the race. (laguna 2008)
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Quote from: derby on July 22, 2010, 03:56:12 PM
you should probably go back and watch the race. (laguna 2008)
I saw the race and at the time didn't think it was fair !
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July 22, 2010, 04:42:31 PM »
Quote from: DoubleEagle on July 22, 2010, 04:11:51 PM
I saw the race and at the time didn't think it was fair !
(here we go again...)
let's review:
Rossi-Stoner Laguna Seca 2008 battle
what exactly was so unfair about it?
(yeah, i should probably just link back to the other 20 discussions we've had about this)
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Re: The Corkscrew, by Stoner
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....all I said was unfair was that I thought that Rossi took unfair advantage by passing on the inside off the course which seems obvious by the blue and white grid .
Stoner is inside , Rossi is outside of the boundary.
If it is legal to go off the course to pass, or take a short cut , then so be it.
Whatever the rules are.
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Re: The Corkscrew, by Stoner
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July 22, 2010, 05:13:53 PM »
Quote from: DoubleEagle on July 22, 2010, 04:58:35 PM
Utube has disabled the video.
....all I said was unfair was that I thought that Rossi took unfair advantage by passing on the inside off the course which seems obvious by the blue and white grid .
Stoner is inside , Rossi is outside of the boundary.
If it is legal to go off the course to pass, or take a short cut , then so be it.
Whatever the rules are.
Dolph
It isn't legal to go off the track and gain an advantage.
Rossi was ahead of Stoner when he entered the corner though, prior to going off track, so no advantage was gained.
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