Ducati Monster Forum

powered by:

December 24, 2024, 04:56:03 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: Tapatalk users...click me
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register  



Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Moto2 stuff  (Read 9333 times)
fastwin
Guest
« on: August 08, 2010, 04:48:01 PM »

This may go nowhere but is anyone else somewhat less excited about Moto2 than 250GP? I damn sure am. I'm in the middle of watching the German Moto2 race and I feel like I'm watching a bad AMA Supersport race. It's a limp dick Formula Xtreme race! Do you actually see this as a "grooming" class for future MotoGP 1000cc racers? I damn sure don't. Do you see any future Lorenzos, Pedrosas, Simoncellis, etc out there? I don't. Tony Elias is the only star I see and he went down to run in that class. bang head Sorry... just really disappointed in this class. Can't wait 'til they butcher the 125 class. Tongue

Thank God for WSBK!! waytogo
« Last Edit: August 09, 2010, 04:43:19 AM by fastwin » Logged
kopfjäger
Post Whore
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 33026


Feral 859


WWW
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2010, 05:07:29 PM »

I really like Moto2. There have been some great races this season.

Moto2 Rewind: Catalunya; HD sample!
Logged

“Woohoohoohoo! Two personal records! For breath holding and number of sharks shot in the frickin\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
fastwin
Guest
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2010, 05:23:19 PM »

Ah, this one seems to be a AMA Supersport crash-fest. Besides Elias who really belongs here... in the "you are being groomed to go to 1000cc MotoGP"? I'm blind to see who's next in line with this group. bang head This class is just weak. Like it if you want to. I just don't... I'll delete this crap and watch AMA MX... thank you very much. DORNA, wake up!!!! You're loosing it. Better hang onto Rossi otherwise you are done!! Grin My worthless two cents... popcorn
Logged
Triple J
Guest
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2010, 06:33:14 PM »

I really like Moto2 as well.  waytogo

I don't see how the 250 class was any better for grooming future MotoGP riders...especially with the switch back to 1000cc.
Logged
Jester
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1417


« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2010, 08:40:35 PM »

There has been some good racing in Moto2 this year and a very heavy grid which is a good thing.  I don't see any issues with it... and hopefully they will find a way to bring the moto2 machines to Laguna.  Talented riders work around the machinery anyway, its not holding anyone back.

I think our biggest worry was lack of drama and some good racing that we came to expect from 250's.  We still seem to have both.
Logged

09’ 848     07’ S2R800
derby
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 5267



« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2010, 04:24:40 AM »

...and hopefully they will find a way to bring the moto2 machines to Laguna. 

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Aug/100804b.htm
Logged

-- derby

'07 Suz GSX-R750

Retired rides: '05 Duc Monster S4R, '99 Yam YZF-R1, '98 Hon CBR600F3, '97 Suz GSX-R750, '96 Hon CBR600F3, '94 Hon CBR600F2, '91 Hon Hawk GT, '91 Yam YSR-50, '87 Yam YSR-50

click here for info about my avatar
fastwin
Guest
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2010, 04:42:57 AM »

OK, maybe the word crap in the title is a little strong, I'll re-title it. I'll blame that on my third top shelf margarita I had with dinner! laughingdp Doesn't quite qualify for the official I'm drunk thread but I guess I was badly waxing nostalgic for the old 250GP class. I'm just overloaded on Honda 600cc inline four racing. And I do think the 250GP class "groomed" riders well to move up to MotoGP... at least in it's 800cc format. Probably better than WSBK. It will be interesting to see who takes to the new 1000cc format. I guess this thread can turn into the Moto2 thread. I don't think there is one, nor is there one for World Supersport. Oh well, end of 600cc rant. Grin
« Last Edit: August 09, 2010, 04:53:17 AM by fastwin » Logged
Spidey
Crashin' mofo
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 4842



« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2010, 05:46:52 AM »

If you're concerned about the quality of the Moto2 grid, in part that's because a huge group of the promising/interesting 250 riders moved up to GP last year-- Aoyama, Simoncelli, Bautista, Barbera.  There hadn't been significant 250 -->GP movement in the prior couple of years.  A new crop of Moto2 stars will arise shortly.

I think Moto2 has been awesome.  There are routinely 5 guys dicing it out all race until and through the last lap. 
Logged

Occasionally AFM #702  My stuff:  The M1000SS, a mashed r6, Vino 125, the Blonde, some rugrats, yuppie cage, child molester van, bourbon.
fastwin
Guest
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2010, 08:48:08 AM »

Yeah, maybe I'm just being pissy but you are probably right, it just needs time to develop. As sad as it was for 250GP to go the way of the dinosaur I was hoping this could be a really cool class. Maybe my expectations were a little high for the first season. And you are also right that the best of the best left the 250 class over the last couple of years for MotoGP. You know it's funny, I enjoy the World Supersport races much more than Moto2. I think the talent runs a little deeper in WSS. Hopefully Moto2 will get there. Obviously it does already for some. [moto] Hey, you enjoy what you enjoy. Good enough. waytogo
Logged
fastwin
Guest
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2010, 05:32:06 PM »

OK, I still go with my first impression of this class. I am just now finally watching the Indy Moto2 dumbmake the beast with two backs crashfest and I'm not 5-6 laps into it. Where did they get these riders? There is no way in hell some of the riders could possibly make it through the turns they are riding and they just t-bone the hell out of other riders left and right. The front group is OK but 75% of the other riders shouldn't even be there. Tongue They really need to not let every rider with two legs and a heart beat compete in this class. It's pretty embarrassing. Sad...
Logged
kopfjäger
Post Whore
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 33026


Feral 859


WWW
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2010, 05:35:12 PM »

The front group is OK but 75% of the other riders shouldn't even be there.

If they did that, then it would be a yawn fest like MotoGP.  Wink
Logged

“Woohoohoohoo! Two personal records! For breath holding and number of sharks shot in the frickin\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
avizpls
TECH
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 529



« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2010, 05:57:00 PM »

Im getting frustrated with the way they just send them off to crash. Its predicatble what will happen in turn one damn near every race. The formula for massive crashes is clearly there and it shouldnt be.
Logged

#11
brix821
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 629



WWW
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2010, 12:18:41 AM »

Ianonne is awesome
Logged

GUNS OF BRIXTON
fastwin
Guest
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2010, 05:28:22 AM »

Im getting frustrated with the way they just send them off to crash. Its predicatble what will happen in turn one damn near every race. The formula for massive crashes is clearly there and it shouldnt be.

Maybe they should have a bike limit on the grid. I don't know, maybe 20 max. Or have some sort of qualy time cut off. You have to qualify within X% of the pole time. It's not like the leaders are lapping the back markers on the 10th lap but damn, I couldn't believe some of the f'ed up lines in crowded turns some guys were taking! They weren't riding to pass riders, they were riding to crash into them! There is no way some of those guys could have made it through the turns on an empty track much less one with riders elbow to asshole three deep in a turn! I have never seen a more crash filled GP race. Not even ones run in the wet. The words frustration and embarassment come to mind. Admitedly decent racing up front but the rest was just damn hard to watch. How can DORNA put up with a race like that?
Logged
kopfjäger
Post Whore
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 33026


Feral 859


WWW
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2010, 06:02:54 AM »

^^ Here are the retirements from the Indy race. It wasn't as bad as you think.


Retirements:

     Mashel Al Naimi      BQR          12 laps
     Jules Cluzel         Suter        11 laps
     Ratthapark Wilairot  Bimota       8 laps
     Raffaele De Rosa     Tech 3       6 laps
     Stefan Bradl         Suter        5 laps
     Ricard Cardus        Bimota       2 laps
     Yusuke Teshima       Motobi       2 laps
     Hector Faubel        Suter        1 lap
     Alex Debon           FTR          1 lap
     Vladimir Ivanov      Moriwaki     1 lap
     Shoya Tomizawa       Suter        0 laps
     Michael Ranseder     Suter        0 laps
Logged

“Woohoohoohoo! Two personal records! For breath holding and number of sharks shot in the frickin\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  


Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines
Simple Audio Video Embedder
Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
SimplePortal 2.1.1