Best high flow filter for 696/796/1100

[ChrisH]

Thanks for the suggestion. I emailed Anthony, and he gave me some good input. According to him, the MWR filter setup is the better choice as it is designed for better filtration, as well as allowing a larger volume of airflow. looks like I am going with no o2 sensors, and the MWR filter instead of the k&n I was planning on.

[Veloce-Fino]

Thanks for the suggestion. I emailed Anthony, and he gave me some good input. According to him, the MWR filter setup is the better choice as it is designed for better filtration, as well as allowing a larger volume of airflow. looks like I am going with no o2 sensors, and the MWR filter instead of the k&n I was planning on.

Exactly what I did.

[asherrick]

Exactly what I did.

No pod filters for you?

[Veloce-Fino]

No pod filters for you?

I'm still buying the custom bracket that dowork is making because I said I would, and already paid for half. But I can't justify spending $1,000 on intake/tuning for a 696. I'll stick with a flash and an air filter for $350.

[asherrick]

I can't justify spending $1,000 on intake/tuning for a 696.

I know what you mean, but you're way more invested than I am. You may as well see how far you can take it!

[ChrisH]

Id like to say that I won't end up going with velocity stacks, auotune, etc but I know I will.  I mean, I have a Honda ruckus that has more money in it then I care to share. For now at least, I'll stick with the intake, reflash, and slipons. 

[desmoworks]

So I'm easily distracted...


I wish I could know for sure if there was a difference in flow between say the standard K&N and MWR

Most filters flow similar... hell stock is as good as aftermarket in many cases. It isn't all about the filter flow though. It is about opening the airbox in this case. The MWR kit allows much more air flow due to the new diameter o the intake opening.

Also it is about keeping the engine clean. The MWR oil foam is fantastic at that. Wilco puts tremendous effort in first making a product that keeps the engine clean (the point of an air filter) and second having it make power. K&N just copies the stock filter and calls it a day. MWR develops kits to increase performance.

Also the quality of the MWR foam is outstanding. Can be cleaned and reoiled 20+ times and only needs it once a year with normal use. In other words the filter will outlast many people's bikes!

[Raux]

i partially agree

yes the airfilter does open the box more thereby allowing more volume of still air

but i'm not sure it flows more air. hear me out.
the amount of air a filter can flow is based on two properties, flow rate of the material and surface area.
assuming the material of the BMC, K&N and MWR all flow at the same rate then surface area comes into play.

the mwr looks like it has a smaller surface area, thereby would actually flow less air.

BUT that may or may not be an issue.

the amount of air an engine sucks in per cycle is limited. question is ... is the stock airbox larger than that volume?

and finally, the MWR has a least one advantage I see, reducing the amount of turbulence around the intake horns.
I hate how close the stock filter sits to the intake horns. that cannot help air flow during an intake cycle even it's a K&N filter.

so... as long as the MWR is allowing enough air into the airbox based on flow and surface area, then it should have an advantage. If the surface area isn't sufficient then it may actually limit the airflow

[desmoworks]

The airbox is so severely restricted that MWR found it to be the limiting factor of the intake system. Hence the kit to open it up. Nothing revolutionary though... Monster airboxes have always been restrictive and more power has always been had by opening them up.

Here is a chart of the MWR kit vs the DP kit that comes with the Termi slip-ons. It is the most open kit besides the MWR so there isn't too much difference as expected... I wish a stock run was also on here as you'd see quite an increase from the starting point then, but the bike already had the DP kit installed when the owner brought it to the dealer for the MWR kit.

On the other 2V motors such as the Hyper we have stock to MWR charts and the differences are massive. Also comparisons to other brands (pipercross, K&N, etc... and MWR is on top, but it comes as a kit - not just a filter copied from OEM so it isn't a fair fight  )

[desmoworks]

The airbox is so severely restricted that MWR found it to be the limiting factor of the intake system. Hence the kit to open it up. Nothing revolutionary though... Monster airboxes have always been restrictive and more power has always been had by opening them up. The filter is not the limiting factor on any Ducati that I'm aware of.

Here is a chart of the MWR kit vs the DP kit that comes with the Termi slip-ons. It is the most open kit besides the MWR so there isn't too much difference as expected... I wish a stock run was also on here as you'd see quite an increase from the starting point then, but the bike already had the DP kit installed when the owner brought it to the dealer for the MWR kit.

On the other 2V motors such as the Hyper we have stock to MWR charts and the differences are massive. Also comparisons to other brands (pipercross, K&N, etc... and MWR is on top, but it comes as a kit - not just a filter copied from OEM so it isn't a fair fight  )

[Veloce-Fino]

Sweet,

glad I bought MWR.

[asherrick]

Did you have to get the DP air box lid cover (the one with the extra holes)?

[Veloce-Fino]

Did you have to get the DP air box lid cover (the one with the extra holes)?

All I bought was the MWR 696 kit.

It's a drop in.

[asherrick]

It's a drop in.

From the pictures it doesn't look like it replaces the air box lid. If it doesn't, how are you getting more air into the box?

[DoWorkSon]

I believe stock, the airbox has a cap that sits over the filter. The cap has two ducts which line up with the air ducts on the airbox... So, it has somewhat of a "ram air" effect... The cap also holds the filter in place.

The MWR kit is just opened up on the top without the cap, allowing more air to come in, rather than be restricted down two small paths.

Go to pod filters!