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Speeddog
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Re: 'Belle's 748 Fix-up
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Reply #120 on:
December 16, 2010, 12:02:50 PM »
I bet it didn't break 100HP, unless the motor's over 800cc now...
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Re: 'Belle's 748 Fix-up
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Reply #121 on:
December 16, 2010, 12:22:47 PM »
It's an 853 with a power commander. Should we start a pool?
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Re: 'Belle's 748 Fix-up
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Reply #122 on:
December 16, 2010, 12:58:17 PM »
I forgot to ask what the HP read as, but it started out on their dyno at about 90 hp. Scott said that he could get a few more out of it, but I'd guess it doesn't break 96.
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Re: 'Belle's 748 Fix-up
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Reply #123 on:
December 16, 2010, 07:43:40 PM »
The torque output tells a large part of the story. Those are the numbers I look at.
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Re: 'Belle's 748 Fix-up
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December 17, 2010, 07:28:22 AM »
Torque is in the low 50's. Nothing to write home to mom about, but enough to have fun with. I don't particularly give a rip what the engine can do, because it's still me riding it. I could be on Rossi's bike and my laptimes would still suck. As long as it's smooth, I'm happy.
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Re: 'Belle's 748 Fix-up
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Reply #125 on:
December 17, 2010, 11:25:33 AM »
Keep in mind the dyno at Desmoto (Double Dog's dyno, actually) is an inertial dyno, so the numbers will read ~10-15% lower than a "standard" dynojet style dynamometer.
Quote from: mostrobelle on December 17, 2010, 07:28:22 AM
Torque is in the low 50's. Nothing to write home to mom about, but enough to have fun with. I don't particularly give a rip what the engine can do, because it's still me riding it. I could be on Rossi's bike and my laptimes would still suck. As long as it's smooth, I'm happy.
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Re: 'Belle's 748 Fix-up
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Reply #126 on:
December 17, 2010, 11:50:05 AM »
Desmoto told me that there's a huge +/- with any dyno numbers, but yes, theirs reads lower than a dynojet. I'm really just looking at the curve and where the changes happen in relationship to the numbers. The numbers themselves aren't that critical.
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Re: 'Belle's 748 Fix-up
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Reply #127 on:
December 17, 2010, 11:53:38 AM »
agreed... numbers are generally not comparable from one dyno to another. I saw the discussion about the pool for whether it will crack 96hp and thought I'd call that out.
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Re: 'Belle's 748 Fix-up
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Reply #128 on:
December 17, 2010, 11:58:57 AM »
Good point. My guess was premised on an earlier run on that same dyno.
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Re: 'Belle's 748 Fix-up
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Reply #129 on:
December 17, 2010, 12:01:03 PM »
ok. yep.
I'm curious where my monster netted out on their dyno. I was so overjoyed by how smooth it was that I forgot to ask!
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Re: 'Belle's 748 Fix-up
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December 17, 2010, 12:06:26 PM »
I thought you were tossin' out numbers all over the place. Now that I know that you don't have it on paper, I'm going to tell everyone that heap of junk ran at 35 hp.
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December 17, 2010, 12:20:50 PM »
If we're getting into numbers envy, please keep in mind I've got an 1198R* with kit cams + velocity stacks, ported heads, and several drums of MR-12 waiting to get mapped.
*true... it started as an "S", but when I replaced the complete heads (including cams/valves), rods, crank, and swapped the rear shock for a TTX, it became an "R"...
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Re: 'Belle's 748 Fix-up
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December 17, 2010, 12:30:49 PM »
You're too easy.
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Re: 'Belle's 748 Fix-up
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December 17, 2010, 06:04:05 PM »
Quote from: tigre on December 17, 2010, 12:20:50 PM
If we're getting into numbers envy, please keep in mind I've got an 1198R* with kit cams + velocity stacks, ported heads, and several drums of MR-12 waiting to get mapped.
*true... it started as an "S", but when I replaced the complete heads (including cams/valves), rods, crank, and swapped the rear shock for a TTX, it became an "R"...
Thats cool n all but its still painted like a tiger.
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Re: 'Belle's 748 Fix-up
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Reply #134 on:
December 17, 2010, 06:28:42 PM »
Good point -- it's an 1198GRRR
Quote from: DanTheMan on December 17, 2010, 06:04:05 PM
Thats cool n all but its still painted like a tiger.
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