S2R1000 Intake Honking

[WetDuc]

I bought the bike from a private dealer who got it at an auction.
He doesn't know too much about Ducati's and only had this one for a few months before selling it to me.  He said he thinks it got repossessed and sat with DNA for a while before being auctioned.
Other than that, I don't quite know if the mods were a kit or piece by piece.   

Is there any way for me to tell the difference between the ECU's of a full system from a slip-on?  I guess I can always just fit the midpipes and see how it runs once they finally get here from Italy.

Either way, I was going to get it tuned after the midpipes, but will I absolutely need an ECU flash?

[lofty55]

Not sure there is a way to tell the difference in ECU just by appearance. I'm guessing no.

Right now you have your lambda sensor plugged in to the udder right? So the ECU is set for an open loop system and slipons, we think. If your new midpipe has the sensor hole, you may not have to reflash. But if you eliminate the o2 sensor and ogo closed loop, like I did, you should reflash. It costs about 250 bucks and some downtime.

Not sure if this is 100% accurate, maybe someone else can chime in if I'm talking shit. Just trying to share what I know, or think I know, since we have the same bike.

Other than this noise, is there any other issue? Surging at all? Does it sound like a bowl of rice crispies on decel? Snap crackle pop. Do you lose power or studder at the noises rpm range?

If you install your new midpipe and its still giving you problems, look on the bright side. Your bike looks a hell of a lot cleaner without the udder!

[Howie]

If the Ducati Performance part # is still on it your dealer should be able to tell you.

[WetDuc]

I have part # 9651706B.
I would go have it tuned now, but I really want to get the midpipes first and fix any of these ECU issues.  I'm going to talk to the mechanic on Tuesday and find out if he can tell.
I noticed my O2 sensor has been disconnected and the connector capped off.  Would the Termi slip-on system run with the O2 sensor and the full system run without it?  Duno...

[lofty55]

Interesting....

Would the Termi slip-on system run with the O2 sensor and the full system run without it?

I was under the impression that this was true, especially if purchased together.  But....

If someone put on a full system ECU with slipons and chopped airbox and capped the plug. It might work ok but would still need tuning.

Put on the midpipe and see what happens.

My mech told me that my bike is more difficult to tune because of the beast-r intake (fancy pod filters). Its sucking in so much air that its hard to tune at low rpms. Partly cuz I havent done any top end engine work.

This is similar to what's happening with your chopped intake I imagine. I've also heard people say to not chop an airbox cuz its designed to pull from still air. Dunno if its true or not. The pod filters only work because they attach to velocity stacks.

After your mid pipe install. A good mech should be able to tune that sucker up.

My tuning involved tps reset, trim adjustments, higher idle. Prolly some other things.... I'm also not a fan of power commander stuff. I've been fine without it.

[WetDuc]

I'm honking away everyday. 
The bike seems to run perfect even when the constant honking is the loudest.  I'm pretty sure that is the cause of the noise I hear. 
I have considered buying a stock airbox lid and chopping it myself so that it will still include a bit more of the front of the lid to block rain, and maybe noise.
But even if the lid was on, this honking would still be loud.   It must need tuning. 
Whether my ECU is for a full system or a slip-on, I still have no clue until I get up with the dealer for the tune after my midpipes finally get here.

Midpipes should be here in about a week!  Wooooohoooooo!

[Speeddog]

Swap the lid from the 695 on there and take it for a spin.

[WetDuc]

I'll give it a try, but won't it run crappy anyway from the lack of airflow?  I would be able to see if it muffles the sound, but in the end, I want to run the open airbox with the DP ECU the bike already has.
Am I just whining, and constant intake honking at a specific rpm range is normal for a ducati with the airbox chopped?!

[Speeddog]

It's a quick test, and it's free. 

[lofty55]

I'll give it a try, but won't it run crappy anyway from the lack of airflow?

Not necessarily, too much air flow can be bad. And remember the whole still air argument! Your chopped box isn't performing the same as pod filters with velocity stacks.

Buy yourself a decent intake setup if you want an open airbox.  250 for tpo kit and 350 for the -r kit.  There are other options as well.

Also remember that if you decide to change things down the road, you will more than likely have to get it tuned again.

[lofty55]

Oh yea wanted to thow this at ya too....

Even though i had a full system with dp ECU, my beast r intake was almost too much air. The whole open airbox mod will make our bikes perform better with proper tuning. But the real gains are seen when open style intakes are combined with serious engine mods like big bore kits etc.

[WetDuc]

Interesting ideas about airflow.  Per Speeddog's advice, I am going to slap the airbox lid from the 695 on real quick to see how the bike runs.  I looked at the airbox again and it seems obvious that it was chopped, it is not a Termi airbox lid, so I'm doubting that the slip-ons and ECU were bought as part of a slip-on kit.  I would like to re-chop a used airbox lid in a way that will block rain a little better than the current lid.



I just wanted to add that I took a look at the ECU again yesterday, and it seems that the sticker with the DP part # is correct as I stated it previously, but there is also another sticker on the other side of the ECU.
This second sticker has some identification numbers on it that I wanted to throw out there:
2233SB01           60HCB3N1I  023  0B

Can anyone identify my ECU as full system or slip-on with this info?

[WetDuc]

Just a quick question:
Does the open airbox lid that comes with the Termi kit look like a stock airbox lid that was cut with a hacksaw by a 12year old?  Mine literally just looked like the top was sawed off.  I'm trying to determine if the previous owner installed a Termi kit or just pieced together the ECU and pipes then cut the airbox.

[lofty55]

From what I have seen, the kit comes with a red high(er) flow filter that fits in the stock airbox. I don't think it comes with a new lid, just the filter.

[WetDuc]

Installed the Marving mid-pipes this morning.  The bends and mounting plates required some elbow grease to get the right fitment, but it got on just fine and looks great!  The sound is out of this world, but the best part is that the intake honking that used to be constant between 3-3.5k rpm is TOTALLY GONE!  The bike rumbles so beautifully and only honks at me when I gun it.
So great, so frikkin cool!!!