Ban Yourself, You Car Nerd, You.

[KRJ]

   Hey Man, get a CLUE...

[Duck-Stew]

1967-1969 Z28's, eh?!?

More of a Ford-guy, but I do know that in '67 the Z28's were an option w/o an external badge. Also, the 67 had 1/4 windows, no side marker lights and a dash mounted ignition.

Col. Mustard?!?  Lead-pipe?!?  Oh the references that could be made... 

[Ratfink749]

1967 IIRC there were 602 produced.  1968 was closer to 18,000, 1969 23,000ish.  67 and 68 both ran a 2 bolt main block, while the 69 got the 4 bolt.  Chevy rated the 302 at a mere 290hp.  (Though highly underrated for insurance reasons)  These flat tappet 302's would rev 7500 rpm even though they were produced with what has been said to be the heaviest OEM pistons GM ever used.  The 302 was originally created as somewhat of a hybrid between a 327 block and a 283 crankshaft.  (4" bore, 3" stroke, small journal crankshaft) Available with Dealer installed headers, an optional Cross ram intake manifold, and one of the first GM showings of 4 wheel disk brakes. 

... Can I go to the fancy celebrity Martha Stewart Jail? or is it gonna be BCDC for me?

[DucDog]

A few weeks ago, I was at a business on Juan Tabo just south of the fwy.  Next door was a car performance place.  It was a Friday afternoon before the Sat. night scheduled drag races. 

Here's the part for Ratfink....     
As I drove up there was a continuous roar of... some tortured monster...that I could hear even inside my truck a block away with the A/C on.  ....A cloud of smoke was coming out of the building, which appeared to be on fire!   .....So, naturally I went to see what the .... was up.  Inside on the dyno rack was a very nice '69 Camaro with a built 454 motor... with Nitrous....  It had just made a "pull".  The computer said 459 hp at the rear wheels!   The smoke had been coming from the Hoosier rear slicks that were being tortured and slipping on the dyno wheel. 

The next car up was a nice looking '57 Chevy two door coupe with a very large lump coming out of the hood.  The lump was a 6-71 GMC blower pushing lots of boost to a built small block.  There was another "pull", with even more noise and smoke from the Hoosiers.....  The computer again read in the 450-460 hp range..... Just friggin awesome....!!!!!!!   

The enormous booming sound pounding your chest, the smoke rising off the tires and the very real danger of things blowing up and sending parts to the moon... was worth the price of admission at any show in town! 

Motorcycles or cars....they all got motors and produce fun!.....make your choice and have some of that fun.  If you got lots of $$$'s, do both!!   

Go RatFink!.... Go Stew! ..and now I'll stand in the corner too.   

[Ratfink749]

Ahh yes! The Dyno Edge.  Good little shop there!  They have somewhat of a specialization in Mustang performance, but the cars that go in and out of there for some Dyno tuning are just amazing!  I pass it frequently as its just up the street from my house.  Glad you got to have a good chest pounding while you were there!    

[Duck-Stew]

Aaaahhh...  Where to continue?!?  Vintage Camaro's?  The Mighty '69 ZL-1 all-aluminum big-block perhaps?  The '61 Oldsmobile Turbocharged Jet-Fire all-aluminum V8 maybe?  The '66 Buick Wildcat Gran-Sport maybe for the larger vehicle crowd?

Perhaps I should delve into the various differentiations between the many differing Ford V8 engines from the 1950's until the 1990's...

Maybe a historical look at the small-block Ford from 1962 until it's demise in 1998....


Aaaahhhhh!!!  I know:  The 1969 Ford Torino Talladega.  852 examples made it off the assembly line in 1969 and it was designed in a wind-tunnel for one purpose:  NASCAR domination against the Super-Bird (and it was hugely successful too!)  I've driven one BTW... 

Street versions 'got by' with the 428CJ and SCJ engines and most were backed up to the venerable C6 automatic (as was the car I drove).  Primary differences between the regular Torino and the Talladega were:

Side-skirt ground effects (they left the sheet metal seam below the doors 1/2" longer than on the other Torino's which was highly effective at speeds over 160mph).
A different front bumper (it was actually a rear bumper from the same car with some holes filled in and different mounting brackets)
The car sat about 1/2" lower than the standard Torino's too.

The engine that powered the NASCAR Talladega's was the BOSS429 engine which was actually homologated in the Mustang chassis for 1969 in the form of the Boss429 Mustang (obviously).

The combination of the aerodynamically modified Torino and the new BOSS429 engine proved to be a very winning combination for Ford in the 1969 NASCAR series.  In fact, it was SO successful that in 1970 when the new body style Torino came out (and was an aerodynamic flop at high speeds), MANY teams reverted back to using the 1969 cars which had proven themselves to be a formidable force and still were in 1970 as well.

[Randimus Maximus]

Car geeks rejoice!

 

[nicrosato]

Gawd, an All-American thread. No place for German or Italian or even Brit machines here.

Somewhere I have a picture of an AC Cobra taken in the pits at the Bridgehampton Raceway in '65 during the  Vanderbilt Cup. That race also featured the Chapparal  of Jim Hall.

American-powered road racers. Amazing...

[Zaster]

Gawd, an All-American thread. No place for German or Italian or even Brit machines here.

Somewhere I have a picture of an AC Cobra taken in the pits at the Bridgehampton Raceway in '65 during the  Vanderbilt Cup. That race also featured the Chapparal  of Jim Hall.

American-powered road racers. Amazing...

Well Nic....on the bright side, the Americans have some bragging rights here..doesn't look so good for them in the motorcycle arena   BTW, love the Cobra

[Duck-Stew]

Car geeks rejoice!

 

We are.  That's what this thread is for apparently.   

Tonight's lesson/rambling: The A.C. Cobra.  Started life as the A.C. Ace sports car in England.  The A.C. company was nearly bankrupt (IIRC) and the weezing 4 cylinder engine that they put into the Ace simply wasn't enough.  Carroll Shelby was on a biz trip to England for racing or something like that.  Bought an A.C. Ace and had it shipped back to the States where he promptly re-powered that bugger with a proper 'K' code 289 Ford small block.  The 'K' stood for the High-Performance engine which had solid lifters, better heads and was rated at 271bhp (crankshaft rated power BTW...).

The 'Cobra' was born...

[Randimus Maximus]

Old Carroll sure was a wheeler and dealer back in the day!

I was lucky enough to meet him a number of years ago.

I found him to be a very cool guy. 

[nicrosato]

Well, I'm recovered from my trip to California and it's going to rain here in NY today, so no sailing. Therefore, I will dig out and scan some 45 year old photos of the Shelby Cobra.

[nicrosato]

Haven't found those 45-yr old black & white photos of the '65 Vanderbilt Cup yet.

The carb on the outboard engine on my sailboat got all fouled from sitting around a few weeks. Tough to work on it on the boat. Sunday, I hoisted it off the boat and dropped it off at the engine mechanic. In his shop he has this '56 Ford Thunderbird. It's been repainted and it runs, but it is not a fully restored piece. I believe he said it had a 312 V-8.  



Sorry I couldn't get a full photo. Even though it's 54-yrs old, it's still a pretty design.

[Duck-Stew]

Ah yes...  The 312 'Y' Block Ford V8.  The largest of the 3 factory offerings for this engine.  The other two being a 272 and a 292.  Baddest, nastiest 312 was in the T-bird and (I believe) some Police equipped Fairlanes.  Dual-Quads and a Blower were factory options...  (I think...I know the blower was, the dual-quads maybe not so much...)

There were some 3x Duece equipped Y-blocks out of the box...

I've always loved the 1st gen 'Birds... 

[kingbaby]

Thread jack... on purpose...no guilt:

Jim D. left me a VM this eve about the moto "Cannonball Run" being in Abq. today.  Sorry to talk about bikes on a motorcycle forum, but, did anyone other than him see the gathering here in town?