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Author Topic: Kickstand and shifter dragging on track. Solutions?  (Read 6286 times)
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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2010, 08:12:37 AM »

or an already-tracked SV, etc.  tons of them out there.
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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2010, 08:20:09 AM »

if you have access to a decently priced SS, then keep it in the family  Grin

There are tons of track bikes out there.
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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2010, 08:22:22 AM »

IMO, you're already past what a stock 695 can do on the track.

The picture shows how low the fork is during a turn, the rear is probably the same.

Put some money into your suspension - you will NOT regret it waytogo

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Raise the rear if your bike has an adjustable ride height rod. Check sag.
New linear springs up front and maybe another oil.

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Other forks. Other rear spring and shock. Adjust ride height.

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Different bike.

Have fun [moto]  
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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2010, 07:45:01 AM »

It's difficult to drag hard parts on street tires if you're positioning correctly. As duccarlos was saying, think about where your mirror would be and try to bring your face towards that point. Right now, you're way crossed up. Good luck!
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« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2010, 10:30:48 AM »

Thanks for posting up this question.  I've run into the same problems with my 695.  After 3 track days, I've never been able to get either knee down, but I do find myself dragging the shifter and peg on the left, and the brake pad and peg on the right.

The problem with the 695 is that the rear suspension only has minimal adjustment and the front has no adjustment at all.  The rearsets on the 695 are also set lower than other models such as the S2 and S4's.  Unless you've gotten some advice that I haven't found, the bike is a limiting factor. 

Given my limited experience, I will defer to what sounds like very good advice given above.  The photo...awesome as it is...does look like you are crossed up.  Your upper body is open to the outside of the turn instead of to the inside.  Like others have said, a big tell is that your outside arm is bent.  There are a bunch of good books out there....Keith Code's book and video are my favorite... but all agree that by riding crossed up, you are forcing your bike into a steeper lean angle.  If you hang off correctly....I'm still working on this....you can corner tighter at a higher speed without having the bike banked over as far.  In other words, if you position yourself correctly, you will very likely be dragging knees without having to drag parts of the bike.   [moto] 

 
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« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2010, 10:48:16 AM »

o Jetbrett and Alan T, for the 695 monsters, to raise up your pegs a little bit, you might consider as a cheap mod/attempt at creating a little more clearance, think about the ST Series Peg lowering plate kit from desmotimes.com used in reverse to raise the peg platforms...just a thought.
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« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2010, 11:00:15 AM »

I looked at that, but couldn't get it to work....my mechanical/engineering skills are rudimentary to say the least...so it could just be me.  I found that the lowering rod was fully extended at the stock height. It would work great to bring down the height, but not to jack it up. 
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« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2010, 04:46:40 PM »


Alan T:  I ride a '09 696 and I do track days.  I would not have considered going to the track with the bike stock, so I put on Sato rearsets.  Ended up with the sidestand dragging and the front hobbyhorsing while at Summit Point.  I took the bike to Duc Pond in Winchester, VA.  They put in a spacer in the rear, increased the rear preload, moved up the triple tree to forks connection in the front, added a spacer in the front forks, and put in heavier oil.  After that, I changed out the brake pads myself.  Now, I am faster in the curves, no bad control behavior, and nothing is dragging.  Talk with Donnie at Duc Pond -- he will give you good advice.

Of course, I am not signing a contract with MotoGP for next season, but I knew that was not in the cards.   waytogo
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