No more Lurching/Lugging below 3k!!!

[Privateer]

I put on the D3 grips and was thinking of doing this but I don't want a bunch of empty space inboard/outboard of the grip.

If it's not too much trouble, is it possible to get a picture of what everything looks like installed?
And could you measure the length of the tube where the grip installs?


thanks.

[muffinman]

Thanks for the FHE

I'm concerned that the minimal power of the 696 + throttle tamer would make it too.....tame but ordered one for my M696 ABSs; we'll see how it goes.

[polivo]

You shouldnt be concerned. The throttle tamer doesnt actually take away any horsepower.  ALL it seems to do is give you a little more range in the rotation of the throttle. This effect makes your power delivery smoother since you can make small gradual increments.. which you could not make before.

I guess the best way to describe it is. If your total rotation from 0-100 percent is 2 inches. The throttle tamer seems to make it 2.5 inches.

[polivo]

I put on the D3 grips and was thinking of doing this but I don't want a bunch of empty space inboard/outboard of the grip.

If it's not too much trouble, is it possible to get a picture of what everything looks like installed?
And could you measure the length of the tube where the grip installs?


thanks.

Ill post a pic of the clutch side. but to answer your question, the throttle tube is the exact same lenght as the stock tube. The grips i installed from monster parts.com.. appeaar to be theexact same length. as you can see from the pic.. there is no space.

[junior varsity]

a cheaper alternative that fixes this problem is not to chug about on a Ducati below 3k rpms. That's not where the power is, and trying to ride there will give you a very unresponsive chassis. If you are interested in sub 3k riding, perhaps a diesel engine is your cup of tea.


The 14t front sprocket does nothing to change "sub-3000 rpm" running. Essentially it moves the range at which your motor would be turning at a given speed "up" some.

But that's just my riding experience.

[muffinman]

a cheaper alternative that fixes this problem is not to chug about on a Ducati below 3k rpms. That's not where the power is, and trying to ride there will give you a very unresponsive chassis. If you are interested in sub 3k riding, perhaps a diesel engine is your cup of tea.


The 14t front sprocket does nothing to change "sub-3000 rpm" running. Essentially it moves the range at which your motor would be turning at a given speed "up" some.

But that's just my riding experience.

That's dandy and all but it's jerky while I'm making my way to and past 3000 rpm... unless you launch your bike in the 4k rpm+ powerband from a dead-start everytime.  Not really plausible when you're city riding in traffic.

[Silver King]

That's dandy and all but it's jerky while I'm making my way to and past 3000 rpm... unless you launch your bike in the 4k rpm+ powerband from a dead-start everytime.  Not really plausible when you're city riding in traffic.

   So true! 

Mine hates 4K RPM.  What to do?  What to do? 

 

[junior varsity]

whack open the throttle and go by the traffic. a tuned up big twin doesn't like really low rpms.

[battlecry]

There are a number of things going on.  The throttle tamer will not fix your Monster crappy in-town slow power band.  (Valve clearances, cam timing, throttle sych, TPS synch, PCIII map changes, airbox mods, ignition mods may help with that).  

The G2 will give you more sensitive throttle control in the 25% or less throttle range.  It comes with something called a 500 cam, which is a slower opening cam than the one G2 sells with their throttle tuning kits, which includes 100, 200, 400 cams.  I found it too slow, forcing me to make awkward wrist/throttle changes around town to shift the throttle turn range.  You can change to a 400 or a 300 cam for around $20 each or use JB Weld, Marine Tex, or your favorite reinforced epoxy to steepen up the opening to suit your riding style.

I found it a good addition to the 14 tooth front sprocket for in town riding.

[junior varsity]

The 14 is the biggest dif maker by changing at what rpm you'd be at a given speed.

[sbrguy]

so what is the verdict on others using the throttle tamer? what are your experiences so far?

[stopintime]

1 front = 3 rear (about 7% lower RPMs at any time, any gear)

Unless the throttle tamer is the opposite when wide open, I'm out. It will require more arm movement between closed and wide open, which I think is kind of bad for steering control/input. I went the other way, an Electraeon fast cam, and handle the city lugging by using the clutch. Bad for the clutch, but good for smoothness.

[rosstermyer]

just ordered the tamer and grips for my m1100s

i already have termi's and 14t so i hope everything is golden after this!

[dbran1949]

I did this a while ago in excel sorted by ratio - gives you an idea of 15 v 14 in the front and the relationship with the rear sprocket

Front   Rear   Ratio
15   38   2.533
15   39   2.600
15   40   2.667
14   38   2.714
15   41   2.733
14   39   2.786
15   42   2.800
14   40   2.857
15   43   2.867
14   41   2.929
15   44   2.933
15   45   3.000
14   42   3.000
15   46   3.067
14   43   3.071
15   47   3.133
14   44   3.143
15   48   3.200
14   45   3.214
15   49   3.267
14   46   3.286
15   50   3.333
14   47   3.357
14   48   3.429
14   49   3.500
14   50   3.571

[Duc796canada]

I like my 15/41 gearing, just right!