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« on: September 18, 2010, 07:15:56 PM »

So I learned the hard way this afternoon that Woodcraft's Riser clipons will not fit under the triples of pre-'02 Monsters; as you can kinda see in the pic the triple extends out further than the flange on the fork clamp which prevents the riser from bolting on:



For now, I just slid the forks up an inch and mounted them above the triple; I know it isn't ideal, but it'll have to do for the time being. 

So I'm curious; has anybody successfully mounted riser clipons under the triple of an early Monster?  Now that this problem has presented itself would appear that my only real option is SpeedyMoto's Tall Boys since they mount a little further to the side. Unfortunately, I may be old & gray before those ever come off of backorder.  bang head

Anybody else see an option that I'm overlooking?


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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2010, 07:23:05 PM »

how much rise are you looking for?
tomaselli clip ons clear and have about an inch of rise (about even with the upper triple)
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2010, 06:23:02 AM »

Sorry to hear for your troubles....is it not possible to make a spacer plate to push the woodcraft away from the top triple?
How much rise did you select?
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2010, 09:10:19 AM »

how much rise are you looking for?
tomaselli clip ons clear and have about an inch of rise (about even with the upper triple)

That you Mark?

These Woodcrafts are a 2" rise, which is about the minimum that I think I'd want to go.  In all honesty, mounted above the triple like they are now, the position is perfect.  Just a few inches lower than the factory bars and a bit more sweep:



...is it not possible to make a spacer plate to push the woodcraft away from the top triple?

That's an idea that I've considered.  The risers bolt to the clamps with a funky flange-type mount:



I'm sure a decent machine shop could CNC up a couple spacers that would work, but it would probably end up costing about as much as another set of clipons.

Looking at pics of the CycleCat triple, it would appear that the leading edge is radiused enough to allow the risers to fit; maybe I'll get lucky and find one of those for sale somewhere.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2010, 02:13:58 PM »

its me indeed.

dont you guys know people at speedymoto? I hear if you know the right folks  you can get factory seconds for pretty cheap.


what about a set of tapered drag bars? probably pretty close to the position you want?
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2010, 03:16:51 PM »

I don't, but Matthew knows them all real well.  Maybe I should ask him to put a bug in somebody's ear...

I think I'm gonna take one of the clamps/risers up to Paul Brong this week and see what they think (and how much it'll set me back) about machining up a couple of spacers to offset the risers.

I'll certainly be keeping my eyes open for any cyclecat triples that may pop up; I think that would be the best option in the end as it would solve the clearance issue once and for all.
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2010, 03:54:19 PM »

I have a 2000 m750 with clipons below the triple.  They are two inch rise Swatt's (now defunt from what i hear) but I needed to make a 15mm spacer with through holes to clear the top triple.  It was a huge surprise initially but I lucked out.  I attend a tech college so getting some kids in the machine shop to make some new ones was a breeze.  Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2010, 05:32:26 AM »

couple options.
i would try giving woodcraft a call, they have great service. you might be suprised, they may even have some kind of spacers designed for your situation.

secondly, as others have mentioned, keep an eye out for a cycle cat triple.
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2010, 11:32:16 AM »

Yep; called Woodcraft this morning.  Super nice folks.  They seemed genuinely concerned about my fitment issue and thanked me repeatedly for the feedback.

Unfortunately, they have no intentions of manufacturing a spacer to offset the riser.  They didn't sound terribly thrilled with the idea of me taking it upon myself to do it either; I guess I can appreciate that. 

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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2010, 04:42:19 PM »

guys are just worried about your safety waytogo.
I know you wanted those clipons a little lower than they are now... are you able to swap sides and turn them upside down? I've heard of a couple folks pulling that off.
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2010, 05:07:17 PM »

guys are just worried about your safety waytogo.

Yeah, that and the possibility of a wicked huge lawsuit if something broke and I wadded it up.

I know you wanted those clipons a little lower than they are now... are you able to swap sides and turn them upside down? I've heard of a couple folks pulling that off.

I tried that; waaaaay too low.

So I think I have it licked.  I swung by a machine shop this afternoon to see what he thought about making up a couple of spacers and he assured me it would be no biggie; should have them in hand this week.

I also tracked down a cyclecat triple as an option, but it's for the SBK fork conversion; when I asked the machinist about making up a set of of shims for my 50mm forks, he flat refused to do it - said it was too dicey.  Oh well, if I ever do a fork swap, I'll have the correct triple in stock.
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2010, 06:39:55 PM »

why don't you get the zero rise and mount them above the triple?

or... get a new triple?

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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2010, 10:07:48 PM »

why don't you get the zero rise and mount them above the triple?

Seconded.  Woodcraft zero rise above the triple works very well for me.


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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2010, 04:39:49 AM »

So neither of you see a problem with running around with the forks stuffed up through the triple an inch or more? 
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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2010, 08:08:43 AM »

So neither of you see a problem with running around with the forks stuffed up through the triple an inch or more? 

I'm curious about this as well. Wouldn't this really mess with the geometry?
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