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Quote from: duccarlos on October 06, 2010, 06:06:41 AM
I would hate to call Rossi old school,
I would also hate to call him old school...BUT...he has ridden a 500 and knows from whence the heritage came and has a much better understanding of those days from long ago moreso than Jorge, Casey, and Dani for sure...not saying that the newer class of GP rider bred from the 250 realms can't understand...but I think they have detached themselves from whence they came and have not the bridge of understanding like the old class does...you ask Colin, Loris, Val, and maybe even to a small extent Nicky...you get a different feel....
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Quote from: Blackout on October 04, 2010, 10:43:55 AM
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Valentino Rossi - Lorenzo - Guido Meda - Motegi 2010.mp4
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i think that jorge if he wants to get put rossi in his place should turn the tables and intimidate him in the next race. if he already has the championship lined up and practically done he should basically do the stuff rossi does to him and basically run him off the track.
the only way that rossi will ever back off of intimidating jorge will be if jorge shows him he is just as willing to crash to win a race and take both of them out as rossi is.
i think this has worked with pedrosa, pedrosa showed he is willing to crash a teamate for a win, ie, nicky and him and notice that rossi only on occasion has pulled the intimidation stuff with pedro but not nearly as much as gorge.
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Quote from: sbrguy on October 07, 2010, 06:45:59 PM
i think that jorge if he wants to get put rossi in his place should turn the tables and intimidate him in the next race.
Doesn't have it in him to do that.
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Quote from: sbrguy on October 07, 2010, 06:45:59 PM
i think this has worked with pedrosa, pedrosa showed he is willing to crash a teamate for a win, ie, nicky and him and notice that rossi only on occasion has pulled the intimidation stuff with pedro but not nearly as much as gorge.
I just think this is because Rossi hasn't really had the opportunity when it mattered. Pedrosa either jumps in the lead and leaves everyone, or he crashes trying to do so. I can't remember seeing any really good race battles with Pedrobot...the ones I remember he always ends up blowing a turn and getting passed comfortably.
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Quote from: Triple J on October 08, 2010, 07:29:37 AM
I just think this is because Rossi hasn't really had the opportunity when it mattered. Pedrosa either jumps in the lead and leaves everyone, or he crashes trying to do so. I can't remember seeing any really good race battles with Pedrobot...the ones I remember he always ends up blowing a turn and getting passed comfortably.
The only one I can remember is when he and Lorenzo went at it earlier this year. I remember being surprised that douchebot could actually race.
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didn't rossi or lorenzo bang bikes with pedro last yaer and pedro was pissed about that afterwards?
if i was rossi i wouldn't try that stuff with pedro, afterall pedro is like him, he'll take out his own teamate that is ready to win a championship. i'm sure pedro would have no problem taking out another guy from another team.
i know all of this "intimidation" stuff is all easier said than done, but its obvious that at this elite level there are guys that are willing to take those risks with intimidation to win races and get in other racer's heads and play mind games. Rossi obviously being the master of this game in motogp.
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you think he meant to do that?
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you think he meant to do that?
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Quote from: humorless dp on October 08, 2010, 11:01:54 AM
It takes two to tango...
sorry, should have clarified: sbrguy, do you think that pedro took out nicky @ estoril intentionally?
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Quote from: gm2 on October 08, 2010, 12:28:11 PM
sorry, should have clarified: sbrguy, do you think that pedro took out nicky @ estoril intentionally?
And to add..... I've said it before on this topic, but go back and watch the race. Nicky loses the front and almost takes out Pedro on a similar maneuver just a few laps before the famous incident. He saved the bike, but it could have easily gone the other way. Its just racing. Crashes are just part of it.
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Quote from: Jester on October 10, 2010, 01:35:50 AM
And to add..... I've said it before on this topic, but go back and watch the race. Nicky loses the front and almost takes out Pedro on a similar maneuver just a few laps before the famous incident. He saved the bike, but it could have easily gone the other way. Its just racing. Crashes are just part of it.
Agreed, no one goes into a corner thinking that he will take the other rider out. He's probably thinking that he can squeeze into that small space. The aggressive riders are those that do that on a consistent basis. Pedro has not pulled those moves in a long time. Rossi seems to do once a season. He pulled it off in Laguna against Stoner and Motegi against Lorenzo. I don't see Stoner trying to bang with Rossi any more.
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Quote from: duccarlos on October 11, 2010, 06:15:58 AM
Agreed, no one goes into a corner thinking that he will take the other rider out. He's probably thinking that he can squeeze into that small space. The aggressive riders are those that do that on a consistent basis. Pedro has not pulled those moves in a long time. Rossi seems to do once a season. He pulled it off in Laguna against Stoner and Motegi against Lorenzo. I don't see Stoner trying to bang with Rossi any more.
Don't forget Gibernau. Rossi also took out Melandri from behind once (2006, I think?).
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Quote from: Cider on October 11, 2010, 08:19:55 AM
Don't forget Gibernau.
Rossi also took out Melandri from behind once (2006, I think?).
sete really made that look worse than it was... he could've very easily stayed on track and fought rossi for the position. it might not have changed anything, but he basically rode straight off track after rossi touched him.
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