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Author Topic: D.C. Drivers Rank high in curteous driving?  (Read 5205 times)
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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2010, 01:01:48 PM »
No statute bans it, just like no statute bans unlicensed open carry of a pistol.

The correct question is what statute bans it?

The state AG's ofc isn't aware of one, and va has preemption.
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2010, 01:45:20 PM »
Izaak,

Does VA have the same problem that WI has of local LEOs and DAs arresting/charging open carriers with disturbing the peace since they can't stop open carriers for any other reason?
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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2010, 01:48:17 PM »
No due to an arrest and lawsuit several years ago.  If you open carry here you may get a question from a cop just to see if you're otherwise sane.  I've carried open wearing a suit and got barely a glance from le.
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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2010, 01:52:26 PM »
That being said, carrying a longarm on a sling would merit greater scrutiny.  I don't consider a stop and chat under those circumstances bad.  At the least, its an opp to reinforce that being armed is ok and legal.
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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2010, 05:17:51 PM »
i think if a  Police pulled me over for wearing a shotgun like that and it wasn't loaded that as long as its a civil conversation of what's up and such and i was just on my way from the store or to or from the range, etc , it wouldn't be a big deal at all to me.

in all likelihood as long as its only a stop for just asking why i'm there and such and no tickets or such then would probably be pretty cool  Police and actually have a good conversation about guns and such.
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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2010, 05:29:25 PM »
OK, here you go:

VA preemption statute:

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+15.2-915

Does not distinguish between handguns and longarms, only allows localities to enact restrictions on discharge of a weapon. 

And to the VA legislature's credit, subsection C permits lawsuits against a locality violating the preemption to get attorney fees, damages, etc. 
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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2010, 03:52:11 AM »
but that does not say anything about transporting loaded or unloaded...
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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2010, 04:05:13 AM »
Quote from: zooom on October 20, 2010, 03:52:11 AM
but that does not say anything about transporting loaded or unloaded...

it also doesn't say anything about sticking a midget up your ass too.  waytogo

but after digging around even more, I found that the state allows localities to set limitations provided they are posted and it also allows for individuals to carry regardless of local statutes if they have a reasonable belief that it's necessary for their personal safety.   

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+15.2-915.2

Fairfax does not have a loaded longarm carry prohibition, but Loudon does.
http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/hunting/regulations/local-ordinances.pdf

Pretty nifty chart.

Back to the OP, I have found that pretty much all DC/MD/VA drivers are lame.  DC drivers are just lazy.  MD drivers are stupid and aggressive and VA drivers are stupid and timid.  I am not sure why this works out that way. 
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« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2010, 04:24:52 AM »
Quote from: Autohag on October 18, 2010, 03:31:58 PM
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms.shtm


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...§ 15.2-915.2.  This section empowers the governing body of any county or city to, by ordinance, make it unlawful for any person to transport, possess or carry a loaded shotgun or loaded rifle in any vehicle on any public street, road, or highway within such locality. Any violation of such ordinance shall be punishable by a fine of not more than $100....
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« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2010, 04:25:27 AM »
and that is a VA state law
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« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2010, 04:32:20 AM »
Quote from: zooom on October 20, 2010, 04:24:52 AM
the answer lies here


i didn't see that original post when i posted the link to the same statute, but that only allows the localities to have the law.  look at the DGIF chart I posted, most of them do not.  (items #22 and #54)
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« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2010, 04:49:56 AM »
Quote from: ducatiz on October 20, 2010, 04:05:13 AM
it also doesn't say anything about sticking a midget up your ass too.  waytogo

Wait, you mean some drivers might look at me funny if I do?
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« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2010, 09:05:22 AM »
Butt midgets?!!
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« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2010, 10:03:22 AM »
Funny how this thread started about the courtesy of drives in the DC area and degenerated into one about carrying weapons... Undecided

Unless guns are a highly effective means of promoting courtesy among drivers laughingdp
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« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2010, 10:08:10 AM »
Quote from: Pepe' on October 20, 2010, 10:03:22 AM
Funny how this thread started about the courtesy of drives in the DC area and evolved into one about carrying weapons... Undecided

Unless guns are a highly effective means of promoting courtesy among drivers laughingdp

corrected to remove bias.
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