Stuck in 2nd Gear - $1600 quote from the dealer - is it honest?

Started by gothamS2R, October 28, 2010, 09:18:36 AM

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evoasis

New 800cc engines on ebay go for less than the amount you're gettin' into this broken engine~!
I guess there are good and bad mods; you'll find the good ones here ;)

Veloce-Fino

Quote from: BK_856er on October 28, 2010, 08:55:38 PM
There's a Ducati part that is only $50???  What was it?

I had a temporary stuck in gear situation a while back that resolved itself, but I still plan to pull both side covers to investigate further.

BK

Haha, it was warranty work so the amounts were a lot lower than it I was paying out of pocket.

Something called "kit motore fissaggio arpione C" $44.97. I was amazed when I saw the cost as well...


I'm willing to bet your stuck in gear problem will return at the least opportune time.
Is this thing on?

ducpainter

Quote from: Veloce-Fino on October 29, 2010, 06:46:12 AM
Haha, it was warranty work so the amounts were a lot lower than it I was paying out of pocket.

Something called "kit motore fissaggio arpione C" $44.97. I was amazed when I saw the cost as well...


I'm willing to bet your stuck in gear problem will return at the least opportune time.
Dealers bill Ducati full retail for warranty parts.
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Quote from: Veloce-Fino on October 29, 2010, 06:46:12 AM
Something called "kit motore fissaggio arpione C" $44.97. I was amazed when I saw the cost as well...
Literally translated that means "harpoon C engine locking kit"  [laugh]
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BK_856er

Quote from: Pepe' on October 29, 2010, 11:09:11 AM
Literally translated that means "harpoon C engine locking kit"  [laugh]

Which explains why a google search turns up this:


Veloce-Fino

Quote from: BK_856er on October 29, 2010, 09:22:07 PM
Which explains why a google search turns up this:




Hahahah, this is too funny. I'll be showing that to the dealer next time I'm there. I know they'll get a kick out of it.
Is this thing on?

Porsche Monkey

Back on topic, if this is a transmission shaft why would you heat it up?  Wouldn't you need to heat the gears instead? In my experience you only use heat for assembly not disassembly of transmissions, although my experience is limited to cars. 
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ducpainter

Quote from: Porsche Monkey on November 02, 2010, 05:49:35 AM
Back on topic, if this is a transmission shaft why would you heat it up?  Wouldn't you need to heat the gears instead? In my experience you only use heat for assembly not disassembly of transmissions, although my experience is limited to cars. 
Maybe they're using the old adage...

'If it's stuck...heat it up.'
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Porsche Monkey

Yeah but in the car world that sounds backwards. You heat up gears and spacers to slide them on the shaft. If you heat up the shaft everything gets tighter. Then again I've never been in a bike trans.
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ducpainter

Quote from: Porsche Monkey on November 02, 2010, 01:51:13 PM
Yeah but in the car world that sounds backwards. You heat up gears and spacers to slide them on the shaft. If you heat up the shaft everything gets tighter. Then again I've never been in a bike trans.
I don't think they have either... ;)
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Quote from: bobspapa on July 18, 2009, 04:40:31 PM
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Veloce-Fino

Is this thing on?

Duck-Stew

Neither of the transmission shafts can be removed (or even budged) without splitting the damned cases.  Whomever is telling you the info over the phone doesn't know anything.

For the record, the only shafts that can come out of a Ducati engine without splitting the cases are the aforementioned shifter shaft, and the camshafts...   [roll]

WTF were they heating up?!?  And, more importantly, WHY?!?!?

A 3 minute casual glance at a Ducati engine will reveal the fact that the cases are split vertically...   (BTW, Japanese motors predominately split the cases horizontally so you can assemble them faster...)
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