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Started by bigiain, December 02, 2010, 02:47:53 PM

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I'm not exactly sure why he

or

anyone else

Felt that he could leak the material publically

And

Not have really bad things happen to him

Regardless if what he did was legal or not

He embarrassed the biggest bully on the planet

There will be repercussions and they will be harsh

bigiain

Quote from: il d00d on December 08, 2010, 10:49:08 PM
He's done a half good thing in pursuit of doing, in my opinion, an apparently fully bad thing.

That's an interesting perspective - I'll have to think on that one for a while...

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An interesting story about prosecuting him for the leaked information. It appears the U.S. will have a tough time.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11952817


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Quote from: bigiain on December 08, 2010, 08:10:25 PM
Can I just point out, from my outside the US point of view, that the very idea of accusing someone of "terrorism" for revealing the behaviour of the government/military is _quite_ odd.

(And yeah, you didn't actually say he was a terrorist, but either somebody is saying that, or they're intentionally using "terrorism laws" to charge someone who isn't a terrorist...)

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Quote from: bigiain on December 08, 2010, 08:10:25 PM
Can I just point out, from my outside the US point of view, that the very idea of accusing someone of "terrorism" for revealing the behaviour of the government/military is _quite_ odd
+1 (from my outside vantage point too).

Quote from: ducatiz on December 08, 2010, 08:15:21 PM....The real question is how much actual "bad behavior" has he revealed?  Everything I've read has indicated most of the cables are just embarrassing, not insidious. 

Can someone point to something revealed that shows horrible behavior?  I mean, apart from the normal sorts of cloak and dagger bit.

Just seems like embarrassing stuff such as you'd not want your friend to hear after you'd just criticized his fat wife to another person.
Exactly.  All the more ridiculous then that the publication of mid-level embarrassment can be whipped up into somehow being akin to.... terrorism.

Quote from: Mother on December 09, 2010, 12:01:01 AM
I'm not exactly sure why he

or

anyone else

Felt that he could leak the material publically

And

Not have really bad things happen to him

Regardless if what he did was legal or not

He embarrassed the biggest bully on the planet

There will be repercussions and they will be harsh
+1 ^^ The crux of the issue IMO. 

He made a fool of the Big Guy.  And so now the Big Guy wants to crush him like a bug.  Because He can. 

Crushing small people who embarrass the State by making public the cringe-worthy private utterances of the ruling elite is something we'd condemn China for.  I'd like to think that the USA is better than that.

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We are better.  China would make him a living organ donor.

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Quote from: ducatiz on December 10, 2010, 05:10:53 AM
We are better.  China would make him a living organ donor.

You're right, but do you really want to be proud of "not being as bad as the worst guy"?

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ducatiz

Its a start!  :-)

We're nowhere near the worst and given the plethora of nasty characters we've gone against and how well they've dealt with compared to their actions I'd say we are near the top.

I know most countries would rather "the bomb go off" before they'd use so-called extreme measures.  I mean, God love the Swedes, they couldn't surrender fast enough to the Germans.  And now look at them being vilified.  Lol
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I read a lot of what-ifs and maybe's.  This seems like more of a PR release than a news story.
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