UK Military Deaths Afghanistan

[badgalbetty]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10629358

Hopefully no more will be added to this list. Here are their stories,names,ages,faces,who,what and where.

Your country is proud of you as I am.

BGB

[fastwin]

RIP to all.

[Monster Dave]

I recently read an article about the current state of war and that the US and other countries around the world are entering into what's widely being called a "state of constant war".

It's a scary thing to think that it could never end. Complacency for the loss of life and sheer amount of death as a whole will change humanity forever.

[ducatiz]

I recently read an article about the current state of war and that the US and other countries around the world are entering into what's widely being called a "state of constant war".

It's a scary thing to think that it could never end. Complacency for the loss of life and sheer amount of death as a whole will change humanity forever.

That's such an interesting discussion.  I would say that it's just the opposite:  there is very little complacency.  People today react with the same horror at one death that people used to react with 100s of deaths.  Right now, we've been at war in Iraq and Afghanistan for 10 years but the number of deaths compared to other 10 year conflicts is a fraction -- yet people are far more concerned and interested in those deaths today and far angrier about them.

I agree about the "constant state of war" fears -- bear in mind that is the story backdrop of 1984.

[GAAN]

The number of deaths may be a fraction

but

can anyone find any information on our number of wounded?

[Monster Dave]

That's such an interesting discussion.  I would say that it's just the opposite:  there is very little complacency.  People today react with the same horror at one death that people used to react with 100s of deaths.  Right now, we've been at war in Iraq and Afghanistan for 10 years but the number of deaths compared to other 10 year conflicts is a fraction -- yet people are far more concerned and interested in those deaths today and far angrier about them.

I agree about the "constant state of war" fears -- bear in mind that is the story backdrop of 1984.

True enough. I think that I would enjoy (the learning process) of writing a paper on the Humanity of Modern Warfare. While some would rightfully argue that 1 life lost is one 1 too many, you are absolutely correct that the net sum of life lost has been dramatically reduced - which in its own right is no small feat.

can anyone find any information on our number of wounded?

Without factual information at hand, I'd have to conclude that based on the point made by ducatiiz, the number of wounded would also have declined in comparison to past conflicts.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10629358

Hopefully no more will be added to this list. Here are their stories,names,ages,faces,who,what and where.

Your country is proud of you as I am.

BGB

What's really sad is that looking at the ages of fallen soldiers reveals that most of then were just kids. I'd have to guess that the median age is somewhere between 22-28 years old.

That's really really sad.

[GAAN]

True enough. I think that I would enjoy (the learning process) of writing a paper on the Humanity of Modern Warfare. While some would rightfully argue that 1 life lost is one 1 too many, you are absolutely correct that the net sum of life lost has been dramatically reduced - which in its own right is no small feat.

Without factual information at hand, I'd have to conclude that based on the point made by ducatiiz, the number of wounded would also have declined in comparison to past conflicts.

superior medical technology and implementation reduces deaths

it does not reduced the amount of soldiers wounded

[ducatiz]

What's really sad is that looking at the ages of fallen soldiers reveals that most of then were just kids. I'd have to guess that the median age is somewhere between 22-28 years old.

The average age of soldiers in Vietnam was 19.  Remember the song? 

There are more than a few news websites who chronicle all of the fallen American soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines.  As far as the wounded, I don't think anyone has that available, that's probably not released.

[El Matador]

superior medical technology and implementation reduces deaths

it does not reduced the amount of soldiers wounded

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one. Superior technology vastly reduces the number of soldiers put in harms's way. 

[GAAN]

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one. Superior technology vastly reduces the number of soldiers put in harms's way. 

I said superior medical technology

meaning

our number of deaths is reduced because we save many more wounded than in previous conflict

thus

a lower death count

but

A lower death count due to that technology does not mean fewer wounded soilders

[sbrguy]

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one. Superior technology vastly reduces the number of soldiers put in harms's way. 

yeah but that is of little solice to someone that just lost their son/daughter in a war.

[Monster Dave]

Superior technology vastly reduces the number of soldiers put in harms's way. 

That all depends on which side you're on!!  Just kidding.

You're both right. But medical technology has nothing to do with risk factor reduction for wounds and/or death.

[badgalbetty]

Someone commented about the young age of the soldiers that were killed in vietnam. Yes, there is a difference here in ages. First off ,most of the soldiers killed in Vietnam were consripted men and women, who had no choice about joining up or where they where sent or what their job was. In this conflict , the soldiers killed  that I posted about are professional soldiers. Not conscripts. Modern warfare in a desert area is a bit different from jungle warfare from nearly 40 years ago. I too am saddened at how many people died in vietnam but one cannot compare apples to oranges. This is a different time with different personel with different training and using different weaponry. It seems to me that the majority of deaths in this conflict from a UK standpoint has been caused by IED's which is a very cowardly way to kill. It is the weapon of choice for saboteurs and terrorists, not professional fighting soldiers. Either way, one life lost in war is still one life too many. Sleep well brothers and sisters.

[Kopfjäger]

Just curious as to why you posted a link to deaths of soldiers from the UK?

[GAAN]

Just curious as to why you posted a link to deaths of soldiers from the UK?

She's british