Hope there weren't any buildings or people over the horizon...

Started by mitt, December 09, 2010, 12:55:54 PM

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Quote from: muskrat on December 12, 2010, 12:43:04 AM
And Mutual of Omaha specials along with National Geographic showing lions and crocs slaughtering prey is ok as opposed to this?  I watched the whole episode and it was very tame IMO.

I am not opposed to showing killing animals on TV - that isn't my message.  It is my message you should be able to kill what you are shooting at on the first or second shot and use proper hunting technique if you are going to show it to the masses.

I take it a lot of people on here haven't ever taken a hunting class?

mitt

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If they were trying to demonstrate any level of competence at hunting or with firearms, they failed miserably.
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Quote from: Monsterlover on December 12, 2010, 07:12:17 AM
Clean miss?
The perfect shot doesn't just hit the animal, it hits a spot that results in instant death. That way the animal does not suffer.
A shot that hits but does not instantly kill but instead causes the animal to run off wounded and suffering, is a miss.

Compare to a slaughter house, their "stun guns" are not 100%, and as dumb as cows are they can sense that good things are not happening.
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mitt

Quote from: sno_duc on December 12, 2010, 07:38:47 AM
The perfect shot doesn't just hit the animal, it hits a spot that results in instant death. That way the animal does not suffer.
A shot that hits but does not instantly kill but instead causes the animal to run off wounded and suffering, is a miss.

Compare to a slaughter house, their "stun guns" are not 100%, and as dumb as cows are they can sense that good things are not happening.

But when you are "clean" missing, you have shown the ability to not have perfect shot, so you are more likely to have a wounding shot, like blowing the animals jaw off or an ass shot.

That is why I don't think there is any such thing as a clean miss.

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MendoDave

The first deer I shot, I hit it just above the leg or in the upper part of the leg (not into the chest cavity) It had tried to circle around and behind our group but I had gotten slowed down in a cedar thicket so it ran into me. The shot was only 150' away and the scope was useless, In my inexperience I tried to use it anyway and I had a bit of Buck fever. I must have been about 14 then.

So the deer ran down the hill just about a mile away, we followed the blood trail to some brush it had layed down in. My Uncle killed it (He got there first) That is kind of not the way to do it....

What I found amazing though was that Sarah needed help working the Bolt. I think you should be completely familliar with the rifle before you ever go out hunting for something.

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Quote from: D Paoli on December 12, 2010, 08:13:48 AM
What I found amazing though was that Sarah needed help working the Bolt. I think you should be completely familliar with the rifle before you ever go out hunting for something.

That's what I found odd. Even if she'd never shot before...working the bolt isn't exactly rocket science to figure out.

duccarlos

Unless her dad was an overbearing ass. I think that after 2 shots, they should have traded guns. At that point it should be obvious that the sight is off.
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Quote from: Triple J on December 12, 2010, 08:24:48 AM
That's what I found odd. Even if she'd never shot before...working the bolt isn't exactly rocket science to figure out.

Her gun must be a semi auto.

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Quote from: Triple J on December 12, 2010, 08:24:48 AM
That's what I found odd. Even if she'd never shot before...working the bolt isn't exactly rocket science to figure out.

I think if you want to be President it should be a mandatory requirement that you know how to work a bolt action rifle. Just saying. [laugh]
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Quote from: mitt on December 12, 2010, 07:22:52 AM
I am not opposed to showing killing animals on TV - that isn't my message.  It is my message you should be able to kill what you are shooting at on the first or second shot and use proper hunting technique if you are going to show it to the masses.

I take it a lot of people on here haven't ever taken a hunting class?

mitt

Shit happens.  Variables come in to play.  Sometimes bolts arent as smooth as they could be. It sucks that not every shot is an on/off switch.  Even seasoned hunters with decades of experience miss.  People that take motorcycle classes make mistakes.  Thats how we learn.

I think its cool that she was out there, Im sure contrary to what her "press secretary" recommended.

Couldnt agree more that a Presidential candidate should know how to work a bolt.......and run a company for that matter....and never, ever give an interview in front of a turkey slaughterhouse....

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Its just like watching people on motorcycles.  People that are smooth and comfortable with their bikes opposed to a newer rider that is not comfortable or competent.  Its obvious that these people are trying to portray themselves as experienced shooters and hunters and just as obvious from this performance that they are neither. 
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fastwin

I remember seeing that interview! I'd forgotten about it. That's a classic! [thumbsup]
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muskrat

Quote from: mitt on December 12, 2010, 07:22:52 AM
I am not opposed to showing killing animals on TV - that isn't my message.  It is my message you should be able to kill what you are shooting at on the first or second shot and use proper hunting technique if you are going to show it to the masses.

I take it a lot of people on here haven't ever taken a hunting class?

mitt

ok a miss read then.  There have been many times I've missed those quail and ducks though  :P
I don't have the patience to wait for deer or any animal of the sort.
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MendoDave

After watching it twice I noticed that she got the Caribou on the first shot with the other rifle (unless they edited out some misses). The first one she kept shooting high, so something must have been up with the first rifle.