the ungeheuer tyre thread

[ungeheuer]

A quick rundown on my tyre experiences and opinions FWIW.  Feel free to add yours, but keep it concise - no essays please  .


What?  Bridgetone Battlax BT16s [OE] (120/70ZR17 + 180/55ZR17)
How much?  OE = N/A.
How far?  5,400kms to completely shagged out. We're talking steel belt.
The good?  Nice n grippy, dependable and confidence inspiring.  Up to 5k I liked very much.
The bad?  5,400kms is too few for my liking, the wear towards the end was extreme making the last.... 400kms... tedious and unpleasantly "tippy".  Shoulda dumped em @ 5,000.
Buy again?  Only at the right price.
Grip   .  Longevity   .


What?  Michelin Power Pures (120/70ZR17 + 180/55ZR17)
How much?  $500 fitted.
How far?  7,000kms.... coulda maybe flogged em a little further.
The good?  They do grip.  Slower turn-in than the BT16s.  7,000+kms not too shabby and they did wear evenly.
The bad?  A little weirdly unsettling over irregular surfaces, white lines.... bitumen sealant, they gripped but they occasionally felt a little skittish << technical term    
Buy again?  No.
Grip   .  Longevity   .


What?  Continental Sport Attacks (120/70ZR17 + 180/55ZR17)
How much?  $296.60 inc shipping from here >> http://www.motosport.com/motorcycle/category/Tire-and-Wheels/Tire-Combos/ << +$40 to fit em, thanks Brad  .  
How far? Rear: 5,700.  (The front one is still going strong).
The good?  Sexy tread pattern. I know. I'm so shallow  .  Fantastically grippy tyres, love 'em.  Remained totally confidence inspiring as they wore, making em just as nice from beginning to end.  No shenanigans whatsoever.
The bad?  The rear didnt last too long......  Could maybe have got 6000 if I was prepared to ride it to the metal.  But thats the only negative I can find to report.
Buy again?  Yup, already did.
Grip .  Longevity  

[mattyvas]

620 first.

What?  OEM Pirelli Dragon's (120/60 and 160/60? from memory)
How much?  N/A
How far?  9,000kms.... coulda maybe flogged em a little further but I think they were pretty square.
The good?  Couldn't tell ya much I was very green and just trying to stay upright.   
The bad?  Pretty hard and felt terrible at the end of life.   
Buy again?  Yes but I don't really need that kinda tyre.


What?  Michelin Pilot Powers (120/70ZR17 + 160/60ZR17)
How much?  $600 fitted.
How far?  7,000kms.... with me and the new owner has done another 5,oook's with'em.
The good?  Grippy very much so, felt good in the wet also 
The bad?  I think they have been deleted from the range and replaced with the ill feeling Pure's
Buy again?  Yes.   

S4Rs

What?  Pirelli Dragon Supercorsa Pro's (120/70ZR17 + 180/55ZR17)
How much?  $500 fitted.
How far?  7,000kms.... or a bit more didn't really pay enough attention.
The good?  Shit/blanket..... You get it. 
The bad?  I got rid of them to put on Pilot Pure's, silly me.     
Buy again?  Yes (have a track day set waiting to go on).     

What?  Michelin Power Pures (120/70ZR17 + 180/55ZR17)
How much?  $500 fitted.
How far?  5,000kms.... so far but they are going after Xmas. .
The good?  Grippy.  Slower turn-in than the Supercorsa Pro's.  7,000+kms not too shabby and they wore evenly, making em just as nice from beginning to end. 
The bad?  A little weirdly unsettling over irregular surfaces, white lines.... bitumen sealant, they gripped but they occasionally felt a little skittish << technical term   
Buy again?  Nup, no confidence in them.           

[MonsterDorf]

 What: Pirelli Diablo
How Much: OEM
How Far: 8000Km rear; 15000Km front
The Good: great turn in, good wear, good grip for road use.
The bad: Nothing really
Buy again: Yes but no longer in the range

What: Michelin Road 2CT
How much: $450 fitted
How far: Not very perhaps 4000Km then changed to Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa. See below.
The Good: Seem to wear OK
The Bad: Seemed OK for the first 1000Km or so but then during a couple of runs up Glorious had power slides on the rear which isn't normal on my 800 and then started to slide front and rear when not even near the limit. Scary. Did a track day and scared the hell out of myself on most turns. One of the instructors who was following me had a chat and he couldn't understand how I'd hung on. Slid from inside to the outside lane on both tyres.
Buy again: No way, even if they lasted forever!

What: Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa
How much: $450 fitted
The Good:?
The Bad:?
Note: had them fitted yesterday and its been raining cats and dogs since. Will advise once scrubbed in! All reviews rate them highly.

[mattyvas]

Side note, I'll be very interested to know how good the new Pirelli is.
It was/is the tyre that I am going for next after I use up the Supercorsa Pro's I've just been given.

[sisca77]

Thanks for starting this thread. 

[cakeman]

Side note, I'll be very interested to know how good the new Pirelli is.
It was/is the tyre that I am going for next after I use up the Supercorsa Pro's I've just been given.

Any news on when they are out?

[mattyvas]

They are out if you are talking about the Diablo Rosso Corsa being that Monsterdorf has them fitted.

[cakeman]

Bikebiz has Pirelli Diablo SuperCorsas on special for $499. Im tossing up between those and the rosso corsa. I try not to ride in the rain but im thinking im sure the supercorsas are the better tyre but most probably overkill for someone of my skill level.

[mattyvas]

MCAS usually do Super Coras Pros for $450.

[cakeman]

MCAS usually do Super Coras Pros for $450.

I cant seem to find supercorsa pros...... are these dragon or diablo? they are not on the pirelli page

[mattyvas]

First page of Pirelli on the bottom left.

http://www.mcas.com.au/_product.php?section=1&prodid=8077

[cakeman]

First page of Pirelli on the bottom left.

http://www.mcas.com.au/_product.php?section=1&prodid=8077

Thanks Matty.

As far as i can tell, Dragons seem to be the old model which were replaced with Diablos

[heatherp]

Cakeman, don't worry too much about the rain thing.  I've read that Pirelli are not good in the rain but I've ridden on Diablo Rossos and Angels straight from fitting into torrential downpours and not had any problems. The joys of living in Victoria (although one occurance was in Qld/Nth NSW!)

[mattyvas]

Yep the Super Corsa Pros are an older tyre, the new model is the Diablo Rosso Corsa.
It's has a very similar pattern to the older model just a few more cuts and less of a bald shoulder.

The Pros are basically a road legal track tyre. Not much chop in the rain, i think the Rosso Corsa will be a better wet tyre.

[brad black]

the Pirelli Dragon Supercorsa is the old tyre, been around for years, came in SC1, 2, 3 compounds.

Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa Pro is the new one, it's more track based than the Dragon i'm told.  both have minimal tread.

Diablo Rosso Corsa replaces the Diablo Corsa 3, and is quite a bit cheaper to boot.  same tread pattern as Diablo Rosso.