Pure Gas

[Drjones]

The article title is: "Running on Empty.  As oil prices soar, a simple formula may determine which energy options are worth pursuing."  One of their many conclusions is that ethanol is not worth pursuing;  EROI < 5; < 2 actually for corn based ethanol.

[LA]

Praise Budda, I still get alcohol free gas one mile from my house and now several other places within 5-20 miles on the way to work and back.  I mix half and half 87 and 93. Works great.

[hunduc]

There is a fast expanding company here in upstate new york called fastrac. It looks like lately they started to switch to ethanol free premium (91). More and more of their stations pop up on the pure-gas website list. Let's hope this trend continues. (Now I have 3 gas stations on my daily route!)

[cokey]

Doubt they'll come close to the city..

[the_Journeyman]

I've found gas stations in eastern TN that have the basic three (87, 91, 93) with 10% ethanol, BUT have a second, nozzle for 100% 87 unleaded.  It's only a few cents more than Ethanol 87.

JM

[Greg]

The article title is: "Running on Empty.  As oil prices soar, a simple formula may determine which energy options are worth pursuing."  One of their many conclusions is that ethanol is not worth pursuing;  EROI < 5; < 2 actually for corn based ethanol.

I'm not a fan of corn based ethanol, but there again the idea was to use corn ethanol to pave the way for cellulosic ethanol. Unfortunately cellulosic ethanol is still being developed and is no where near ready for commercial production

[kopfjäger]

I'm so glad most all of the stations here are ethanol free.

[Curmudgeon]

I'm so glad most all of the stations here are ethanol free.

Heart of WHERE in Dixie?! 

[kopfjäger]

Heart of WHERE in Dixie?! 

Ft McClellan area.

[ducatiz]

I'm not a fan of corn based ethanol, but there again the idea was to use corn ethanol to pave the way for cellulosic ethanol. Unfortunately cellulosic ethanol is still being developed and is no where near ready for commercial production

Brazilians have been using 100% ethanol for years produced from cane.  The difference is that they have vehicles designed for it, not gasoline vehicles forced to use it.

Make it from snail turds for all I care, just allow the driver of a gasoline-only vehicle to get "G100"..  Blender pumps should be the standard.  Choose 0% up to 10% for cars nowadays or up to 100% for ehtanol cars.

[Greg]

Choose 0% up to 10% for cars nowadays or up to 100% for ehtanol cars.

 

[kopfjäger]

Brazilians have been using 100% ethanol for years produced from cane.  The difference is that they have vehicles designed for it, not gasoline vehicles forced to use it.

So, all vehicle's imported to Brazil, Ferrari, Porsche, Audi, Ducati etc etc etc are made specially for Ethanol??

[Howie]

I think all that is available (excluding diesel fuels) that is available is E20 up to E 100.  Ducati also does sell motorcycles there.  What are they doing about fuel tanks?  There may be a solution for us.  

[ducatiz]

So, all vehicle's imported to Brazil, Ferrari, Porsche, Audi, Ducati etc etc etc are made specially for Ethanol??

No.  Gasoline is still available but Brazil has a large domestic car industry and makes them.  VW Brasil makes most of the VW s in the USA too.

Import taxes on cars in Brazil make them very expensive too while domestic made cars are very cheap.

[Howie]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_ethanol_fuel_mixtures  scroll down
http://alternativefuels.about.com/od/ethanol/a/ffvsbrazil.htm
http://www.extension.iastate.edu/agdm/articles/hof/HofFeb09.html