Lowside (mulholland strikes again!)

[Duc796canada]

Ouch guys. I'm learning, thanks for the tips in the comments. Sorry for the guys who are scrapping those nice bikes. One thing I commend them for, they are wearing proper riding gear

[Slide Panda]

Mullholland again



Video from the KTM giving chase - skip to 2:40
GSXR RIDE FUN CRASH AND OK. feb 19/2012

Not exactly sure why the dude bins it. He wasn't going all that fast

[Speeddog]

If you're looking at the guardrail, chances are very good that you'll hit it.

[Slide Panda]

yeah, looks like he locked on. Though his body position in the turns coming up to this is all crossed up. Shoulders to the outside forcing more lean into the bike. Though that issue doesn't seem at play here, since he was almost upright from the moment he lost control to the impact with the rail.

[cokey]

Late breaking?  Skid mark didn't seem too long..

[Slide Panda]

[booger]

  1098R - read the comments eviscerating the guy who crashed

[Slide Panda]

Any of the films from this corners comments are filled with people talking crap. Yay for the internets trolls that they can post nasty stuff with no fear or bowing to normal social convention.

Though, I don't get what happened to cause that guy to flop. Looks like he locked the front - but why? Not going fast, as far as one can tell from that. Not leaned... not anything that looks like it should cause a crash. 50 feet on in that gotcha section... ok. But there, seems odd.

[Triple J]

Looks to me like he came in too fast, target fixated on the rail instead of looking through the corner, panicked and grabbed a handful of front brake...and the brembo monoblocs bit him. Those brakes are notorious for being touchy.

[dark_duc]

A monster got it this time...

Ducati Monster Motorcycle Crash - May 13, 2012

[SteveO.]

Why are there so many crashes on that corner, and why is there someone filming everyone that rides by to have all these videos?  Seems weird to me to set up a camera in the corner in hopes of seeing guys get hurt. 

[Slide Panda]

Not ever having been on it I'm not sure - but it does catch a lot of people.

The folks taking photos aren't there for the crashes they are there for business. Much like Killboy at deals gap they set up and take photos of the traffic in the hopes that folks will purchase them. That spot has a large pull off area - big enough for multiple cars to be well off the road making it a great spot to set up - and there's that turn. Which if done right can yield some great photos - and accidents. The coincidence of the pull off and turn are just that - random coincidence.

[The Bacon Junkie]

That corner isn't really that difficult to negotiate... 

People are just dumbasses... 

Lots of factors figure into the crashes that have occurred there, IMHO...

1) People know there's lots of people watching and, of course, the cameras, so maybe they're showing off a little, get in over their heads and biff it..

2) All the previous corners leading put to the long sweeper are relatively short, sharp switchbacks.  I think maybe as people throttle out of the previous right hander, they get caught off guard by the different type of apex, their brains can't compute, so they freeze up and just mosh on the brakes, lock 'em up, and crash...

3) This part of LA is extremely wealthy.  A lot of riders there have more money and horsepower than they have brains.      Most riders up there on any given weekend don't have the first clue on how to ride a motorcycle safely, let alone what to do in an "Oh Shit!" situation...

I'll admit, I got caught out on that corner once...  I'd been through that corner dozens of times before, but once, coming out of the right hander before, I clicked up into third instead of staying in second.  Well, dumbass mistake..  But instead if freaking out, I looked through the turn, stayed off the brakes, and let the bike do it's thing... 

I learned a lot from that little episode... Like that my bike was much better than I was, I had gobs more lean angle than I ever thought possible, and what they teach at rider safety courses really does work and can save your ass... 


As an aside, before moving back to Connecticut, I stayed away from that part of Mulholland for almost two years because of the amount of terrible riders... I opted for the 150 from Santa Paula to Ojai and then the 33 from Ojai up through the National Forrest. 

[SteveO.]

I just thought it was odd that there are so many crashes at that spot, when it doesn't seem like a tough corner from the videos.  I also think it's weird that someone would spend their weekends filming riders, hoping for something exciting to happen.  I watched a bunch with my wife and she figured someone was throwing handfuls of sand on the road to make it worth filming, which is almost believable from some of the wipeouts.

[dark_duc]

No, like it was said, you go to the photographers website and can buy pics of yourself.  I have seen vids where the camera guys will immediately bust out the brooms after getting a downed bike off the road to clear any debris.  The last thing they want is for riders to go down, it would slow there business with less traffic going through during cleanups (not to mention it would be a pretty f'd up thing to do).