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Author Topic: why are my blinkers acting like flashers when i connect the guage cluster?  (Read 16422 times)
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« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2011, 10:51:22 AM »

The 01's don't have a seperate flasher relay, it is built into the gauge cluster.  Rawr01 the relays you were messing with are the main and safety relays, that's why nothing worked when you removed it.

I think the issue is that it is back feeding through the indicator light in the cluster, this is something I was warned about when I had my 2000 Dark.  It's fine when you have one set of LED blinkers, it only happens when you swap all of them to LEDs.  I don't remember totally but I think you need to wire in diodes somewhere to keep it from feeding through the cluster light.  Reference the following link on how to wire in the diodes

http://www.triumphrat.net/twins-technical-talk/154473-dash-light-signal-diodes-question.html

You should probably try putting in some resistors first, because you have only a little load from the Vizi-tec taillight and nothing from the front signals.  The resistors may fix the problem, if not buy the diode kit from Kuryakyn and try it out.

Nope, separate relay under the seat.  The change was in '02,You might need to run a diode back to the indicator light as Schwanger said.  An electronic relay like this one from http://wwwca-cycleworks.com might work without resistors, no guarantee.  If you call Chris and tell him what you are running he might be able to help.
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« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2011, 11:06:02 AM »

sounz like a very complicated solution to a simple problem. s'pose one of the leads to the indicator light were cut? how badly do i need a dim little light on my dash to tell me that the very bright lights right by my hands are flashing? am i missing something, or would this approach, while not as elegant, solve the problem?
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« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2011, 12:28:34 PM »

You would have an open circuit and no signals.  Chances are good the backfeed would no longer be a problem with resisters or an electronic relay.  If you are going through that work of snipping wires, why not add diodes?
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« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2011, 12:31:44 PM »

Now that I know what's going on (you might have pointed me to this thread when you PMed me  Roll Eyes)

I have no make the beast with two backsing clue.

Looking at the wiring harness for this, it appears there's always some cross-over in the instrument panel between the two sets of lights.

Essentially, the instrument panel does act as a "short" between the two sets (left and right) and must allow some current to go between the two sets in order to light up the indicator. However, I'm guessing that now that you have LEDs (which require a lower voltage to work) there's enough residual voltage to still make the other side flash?

Anyway, if you want to disconnect the flasher indicator altogether, just disconnect either the E or F connector from the gauge (White/Green or White/Black wires)

If you want to make it still work, do what Schwanger suggests in the thread:
http://www.triumphrat.net/twins-technical-talk/154473-dash-light-signal-diodes-question.html

White/Green or White/Black wires are the indicator wires that should go into diodes

For a ground wire you can tie into the Black wire.

Also, for the record, the flasher control is NOT in the instument cluster on the '01 bikes.
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« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2011, 12:50:01 PM »

Nope, separate relay under the seat.  The change was in '02,You might need to run a diode back to the indicator light as Schwanger said.  An electronic relay like this one from http://wwwca-cycleworks.com might work without resistors, no guarantee.  If you call Chris and tell him what you are running he might be able to help.

I guarantee that it does not have a separate relay under the seat.  The reason I know is that is my old bike and I looked to replace the relay with an electronic one.
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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2011, 01:02:34 PM »

I guarantee that it does not have a separate relay under the seat.  The reason I know is that is my old bike and I looked to replace the relay with an electronic one.



My '01.

The shop manual and the wiring diagram also agree with me.  No flasher, either the bike is not an '01 or it has been modified.
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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2011, 01:05:36 PM »

Not this 01.  All the fuses and relays are under the tank.  I don't doubt that Ducati wired the bikes differently.
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« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2011, 01:06:38 PM »

its barely perceptable to the eye, but my camera picked it up. one is brighter than the other and i was flashing right in this shot. supports what you say about an "almost short"

i still have to go through all of the info and check those links. meanwhile i went ahead and ordered the Oberon resistors from Motowheels. don't need 'em?
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« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2011, 01:10:04 PM »

nothing under the seat. fuse block, battery, relays, all under the tank and appear OEM.
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« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2011, 01:39:07 PM »



what you are describing is what happens when you don't put in resistors.   otherwise they all blink and act weird.


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« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2011, 01:39:52 PM »

Edited my previous post, '01 M900 indeed has all the stuff under the tank.

I maintain my first response, though, put some resistors on it.
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« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2011, 02:04:01 PM »

Edited my previous post, '01 M900 indeed has all the stuff under the tank.

I maintain my first response, though, put some resistors on it.

Yeah, I'm with you (and others)

If you maintain the "old" resistance to the blinkers you should get the "old" behavior.



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« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2011, 02:11:37 PM »

And I insist that I am hereby smarter than speeddog and monkey, cuz i said resistors first, and they just agreed with me.  Grin
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« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2011, 02:25:12 PM »

stay out of the cluster.(...) do the LEDs have the needed resistors?

post #1(after OP), just sayin..... Grin
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« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2011, 03:21:41 PM »

And I insist that I am hereby smarter than speeddog and monkey...

Dude, that's like proclaiming "I'm taller than a midget!"  Grin
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