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[Veloce-Fino]

We do know.  The Rexxer units for Siemens ECUs is STILL NOT able to reset your service indicator.  I'm frankly becoming a little tired of waiting for Rexxer to come up with updated firmware which allows their unit to do that which they said it would do at the point of purchase.  It would be nice if EVERYBODY who owns a Rexxer device would contact them and demand that this be addressed.  If its only me making a noise then they're not gonna hurry to raise priority of the issue on their "to do" list  .

False advertising.. deliver a product that can do what it is advertised to do or refund the money, or a portion of it at least. For the change you paid ung, especially with the crazy aussie taxes you have, (if they apply for online purchases) I'd be damn pissed if I didn't get what I paid for.

[mattc7]

We do know.  The Rexxer units for Siemens ECUs is STILL NOT able to reset your service indicator.  I'm frankly becoming a little tired of waiting for Rexxer to come up with updated firmware which allows their unit to do that which they said it would do at the point of purchase.  It would be nice if EVERYBODY who owns a Rexxer device would contact them and demand that this be addressed.  If its only me making a noise then they're not gonna hurry to raise priority of the issue on their "to do" list  .

Oh come on, this is NOT a big deal worth making a stink over. 

1st being annoyed at that light is silly.  It's not like a check engine light is on,  or the bike runs crappy,  it's a mile controlled indicator,  which most dealers can fix in 10 seconds of it bugs you that much.

There are many things worth fussing over in life,  this is far from one of them.

I get it,  you paid money for it,  however we all know you and others (including me)  primarily bought it for tuning,  the other features were just gravy on top.

[ungeheuer]

Oh come on, this is NOT a big deal worth making a stink over. 

1st being annoyed at that light is silly.  It's not like a check engine light is on,  or the bike runs crappy,  it's a mile controlled indicator,  which most dealers can fix in 10 seconds of it bugs you that much.

There are many things worth fussing over in life,  this is far from one of them.

I get it,  you paid money for it,  however we all know you and others (including me)  primarily bought it for tuning,  the other features were just gravy on top.

Thanks for your opinion and valuable advice  .

You have no idea the reasons why I bought a Rexxer device  .

Of course any Ducati dealer can reset the service icon - for me however my "local" Ducati dealer is far from local.  A visit to my closest dealer necessitates an entire day off work for the trip.  So having my own tool to reset the service indicator is more than just a cute bonus. 

Maybe - so as not to threadjack - any further debate on this subject ought occur here >>  http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=43335.msg829106#msg829106

[DoWorkSon]

UPDATE:

Heard back from fabricator. Price will be $50+ S&H for bracket. This bracket will also be powdercoated black. So, not a bad deal...

Hopefully we will have a "model" by end of week, we can tweak and adjust any measurements, and then send the final design off to have it made... Expect 2 weeks or less for delivery once we put in the order.

Right now, I have 13 potential players wanting this. If you have not sent me an email with your email, please do so I can put you on the list. Appreciate all the support and the patience... Should be along shortly... and that's a promise

[asherrick]

I'm 22. I would be almost 1000/yr vs my 480/yr now.

Ouch! Have you checked with Rider Insurance? http://www.rider.com/
I'm older than you, of course, but my insurance is like $250/year.

[Veloce-Fino]

Ouch! Have you checked with Rider Insurance? http://www.rider.com/
I'm older than you, of course, but my insurance is like $250/year.

Just re-quoted with them. Full coverage, minimum amounts, clean record.

$1006.00 /yr.

WTF

[mattc7]

Hmm, So I can either get my ecu reflashed to DP Spec & Buy a PCV & get a dyno tune $550 for ECU & PCV + dyno time...

OR

Somehow get to this guy in VA 6 hours from me and have him custom tune my bike on the dyno and create a rexxer tune.

^^^ This sounds like a WAY better option. No PCV and only one thing to pay for.
 
Ducshop kit = ~$300
Rexxer dyno & flash = $300?? - Not sure on this. I wouldn't be buying the rexxer unit, just a flash for my ecu.
Bracket = $40

so round up to $700 and I might be close to an actual price. Hmm, worth it for the 696?

Rexxer custom map approx $600, plus 1-2 days of time.  Plus travel to VA (conservatively, 1 day of going there, one day going home, and hotel/camp while there)

PCV is around 280 in device, and 250-300 in labor plus 1 day. Local shops can do.

choices, choices

[2-Skinny]

  I know that eliminating the λ sensors will achieve "the best" performance, but no one has really talked about the actual differences.  I mean, for race use the Rexxer tune seems that it would give you optimal mapping for your setup, especially for certain track conditions, maybe even tire variables, etc. that could be developed over time and re-flashed on an as-needed basis.  

  However, with all the time/effort involved for pretty much everyone, what is the actual "butt dyno"  feel for the difference? I mean, for riding around town and canyon carving on the weekends, is it worth the extra trouble over the PCV and a dyno tune- even if the overall cost is fairly comparable?  Time/effort is worth money too... and these aren't 150+ hp superbikes that are having an additional 20 hp wrung out of them...

[ungeheuer]

Rexxer custom map approx $600, plus 1-2 days of time.  Plus travel to VA (conservatively, 1 day of going there, one day going home, and hotel/camp while there)

PCV is around 280 in device, and 250-300 in labor plus 1 day. Local shops can do.

choices, choices

If those choices were available to me, I'd forget the PCV without a second thought.

.....no one has really talked about the actual differences...... with all the time/effort involved for pretty much everyone, what is the actual "butt dyno"  feel for the difference?  

Since you asked..... Here's my thoughts: There are differences IMO but not in the end result, not in the "feel" and probably not in the power output or delivery.  The differences are in direction.  The endpoint - both correctly mapped - ought be pretty much the same.  

1) You can adapt your ECU's mapping with the addition of a PCV, can be done at a reputable Dynojet shop near you, works well.
2) Or have your ECU custom Rexxered on a Dyno, mapping the ECU directly via their ECU map editor software.

1) = A Piggy-back additional device to stock which modifies the ECUs management.
2) = An ECU which just does what you want - nothing additional to bolt on.... wire up...  go wrong.

For me #2 is a no-brainer.  But since that option isnt available to me I gotta run with #1 - which works very well, its just that using a secondary device to adapt the ECU is IMO not as nice a solution as just having the ECU do exactly what you want straight up.  Either way I doubt anybody could "feel" any difference coz as I've already said the outcome if they're both done right ought be equal.  Its just the method that's different.

Like mattc7 said..... "choices, choices".  Be happy you have 'em  .

[asherrick]

One disadvantage I see to have a custom Rexxer map is that if you later change something about your setup you will need to have another map made, which for most people is very inconvenient due to the distance. With a PCV there are more tuners available and you could always use the autotune thing that Ung used and bypass the tuner altogether.

Conceptually I prefer the custom map, but it doesn't seem as flexible.

[ChrisH]

I'm not at the point where I want to drop enough loot to do this mod yet, but I'm down for a bracket to hang on to for later when I am ready. If you haven placed an order yet, add me to the list!

Im not well versed in bike tuning but I gave done some tuning on car ecu's, and I agree that the standalone ecu is the more elegant solution, and it also eliminates an extra point of potential failure. Why have 2 separate devices when you could have 1? that said, it doesn't seem like having a stand alone (rexxer) is an option that is readily available, or easily adjusted later so the pcv route is probbly the better route for most people. Gotta love fuel injection, trading the black art of carb tuning for the black art of computer tuning!

[2-Skinny]

@ChrisH:  PM DoWorkSon to get on the list and your down payment in, order is being placed likely next week.

[DoWorkSon]

I think we can all agree that both options have pro's and con's.

Rexxer:
Pros- Eliminates a piggy back system, can re-program ecu to delete o2 sensors and change a cleaner solution, and can modify the bike more in depth.
Cons- Not widely popular(yet) and not many options in ways of tuning or mapping. Sure there are maps, but nothing specifically available for the different applications.

PC5:
Pros- Widely used, and many shops who can plug into it, dyno the bike, and get the best result. There are tune centers all across north America that can plug in and make changes to fit the bike. You can even plug in to the bike from home and make changes straight from your home computer if you want to. many add-ons for it such as the auto tune, quick shifter, and LCD display.

Cons- Cannot eliminate the o2 sensors and tune in closed loop. Not as clean, since you have the unit, and wires running everywhere. Cannot re-program the ecu like the rexxer




Oh, and a quick update. So far, we have had 10 people secure their bracket order. I am taking deposits right now to secure one when the final order is made. The price will be $50 for a powdercoated black bracket. So, if you are thinking about it, hurry up and let me know because we should be putting in the order within a week or two, and probably will not be making any orders in the future(unless there is an overwhelming demand).

[Raux]

there's another option

maybe you can get them just to delete the O2 loop and not custom map for less.
then run a PC V

[DoWorkSon]

True.... But you are paying a ton of money for that... I don't know how these companies justify charging $250+ to plug your ecu into a computer, load up a map, and then mail it back to you....

I'm sure there are other costs associated with it, but that just seems rediculous to me. It took me 30 second to load a map on my pc5...  Not sure how it can't cost that much to reflash an ecu...

Maybe we should get a group buy going where someone with a rexxer unit reflashes our ecu's for us and we all donate some money to offset the cost they initially paid...

Same with power commander, someone pays to have bike dynoed and tuned. Then everyone pitches in for the map if they want it..